Fire Doors and Accessories

Dear Sirs, I was looking for some advice on Fire Doors with metal frames and the required compliance. A building I recently visited had several timber fire doors with metal frames and only 2 hinges (ASSA EN-1935 11). My first thoughts was that they needed to have three grade 13 fire rated hinges and the two hinges would be insufficient. Are you aware of any different specifications/requirements for metal frames? Would it have been compliant at the time of installation? There appears to be very little information available on the internet on timer doors with metal frames. Installing an additional hinge may not be possible and the whole frame may have to be replaced. …

Hi there, I am a 4th Year Product Design Engineering student who is working on a project to improve fire safety! I came across this forum through my research into Fire safety, and was wondering if there was anyone who would be willing to take part in a short survey for my research? I am looking for ways to reduce the cost of compliance with Fire safety standards within the workplace, particularly for small to medium enterprises, where the costs can be very high. Any sort of input or response to this would be greatly appreciated, Callum Macdougall

Hi We have 20 doors in a converted barn (converted in 1994) the building is used a community centre. The door hinges do not have the British Standard stamped on it 'BS EN 1935: 2002: Building Hardware Single Axis Hinges' as the hinges were installed before 2002. Do I need to change the hinges to comply?

I have had all my fire doors inspected recently following advice from my fire officer that the door seals on the frames required attention. The contractor who has been says that replacing the seals on the frames constitutes a major repair to the door and therefore the hinges will also need replacing (they are pre 1990 but are all in tact and in excellent condition) which means a cost of £230- £300 per door. I'm not sure that I am being advised correctly because everything I have read suggests the seals can be replaced really easily and that the hinges only need to be upgraded if damaged or if renewing the door. Can you help?

I want to introduce door closers as I start to prepare for modifying my house for rental purposes. I looked around and saw soft close with adjustable speed facilities. Since ultimately I will need 9 I was looking for a keen price. Of course eBay has rafts of them, very inexpensive compared to Wickes/Screwfit/etc., so I purchased a couple to have a look and think well at least I can use them on the bathroom doors if nothing else. So they arrived, I see no marking on them to confirm BS/EN testing or approval or any such marking to give me confidence it is a proper piece of equipment which will pass a fire inspection in the future. I am disputing with the vendor the validity…

I am writing on behalf of a friend who has recently received a letter from her landlord saying her flat door is a fire door that was checked on a fire risk assessment and it needs 3 new hinges (currently only 2 on the door); a self closing device and new smoke seals. She is a leaseholder and is responsible for repairs to the door but she lives in an old 1960s building that still has the boriginal door and the fire door was never fitted with a self closer. And the hinges are the original hinges. We explained this to the landlord but they are saying the door would have had a self closer under building regulations. Does anyone know if the door would have had a self closer …

Hi, do ALL fire doors require strips/seals? and since when please

Hello, I live in a Victorian house converted into 2 flats. We live in the first floor flat. Our freeholder (Lewisham Homes) is demanding that we replace the entrance door to our flat with a fire door. However the assessment they made to conclude that we needed a fire door consisted of of a 30 second visit into the communal hallway - a small area that the front doors to both flats open onto which is approximately 6ft x 4ft. As the cost of replacement is likely to be circa £1,500-£2,000 (it's a large door and frame!), I'd like to know for sure whether this is something we definitely require before proceeding with the work. In terms of fire escapes, there is the fr…

At my workplace (Textile Business that controls yarn storage, operational Looms etc) we have numerous heavy duty Fire Doors separating departments. I noticed many months, almost half a year ago, that some of these doors didn't close properly even when forced. I instantly reported this to the Health and Safety team as is expected of me. This was 5 months ago and still no-one has acknowledged my query or done anything about the doors regardless of my constant reminders. As you may imagine I've simply had enough of their ignorance to our safety and wondered if anyone on here would be able to help me find a way to get through to them? Also how liable are they for …

Hello, I'm at the end of a loft conversion where the loft conversion company have switched AI from private to local authority following the AI's liquidation do to the current insurance problem. The loft company + original AI advised that fire doors to the central stair off habitable rooms would not be necessary as smoke detectors were being placed throughout the protected building (effectively making Fire Protection to L1) to provide enhanced fire detection. If any fire starts I'll be notified within 10/15 seconds providing ample time to exit. Now the new, replacement local authority buildings inspector has decreed that fire doors are required which contrad…

Hi, Is there legislation that states that a final exit door should open outwards or is this just a good working practice ? Thanks

Hi, I own a leasehold first-floor flat which is part of a converted, four storey, semi-detached house. The conversion was in 1988. I'd like to replace the internal doors in the property to make them more cosmetically appealing. I've been told by a carpenter that all internal doors need to be fire doors. However, the reading I've done online seems to suggest that only the front door of the flat which opens onto the communal staircase needs to be a fire door. However, the legislation is complex and so I'm not at all sure about this conclusion. I was wondering whether anyone is able to clarify which doors need to be fire doors? Many thanks in advance.

Hi on a current job a Maintenance company has come in and replaced all the Georgian Wire glass with plain fire rated glass on a client request. The sealant appears to be leaking ie, running down the door. The manager has said she was told the sealant had a 2 part mix and they haven't mixed it correctly so will never set. Is this correct for Intumescent sealant and is there a way to tell other than with certification that they have used an intumescent sealant? Thanks for any help

My apologies for all the questions. I have completed an FDIS but am find things that were not covered sadly, but I guess not every course can cover every eventuality. Another job i have visited was built 5 years ago. It has 62 residents with at least 30 in various states of Dementia. At night there are approximately 7 staff on duty. All the communal doors have a various door closers but not one of the residents rooms has a closer of any fashion, but only an electronic mortise style lock using a tag to unlock them. All the doors are FD30 and have the correct seals. Above the door is a blank plate where electrics could be fitted for a closer. I was…

We have been asked to inspect fire doors at a hotel and have found surface mounted intumescent strips on most of the doors. We do not know the manufacturer. Are these a suitable solution or should these be replaced with a "routed in door" system ? Please advise, thanks

Hi I live in a purpose built ground floor flat and would like to replace the glass within the lounge door frame. The current lounge door is the original from 1970 (a fire door which may no longer meet new requirements i.e it is solid wood frame, self-closing with two separated large pieces of wire mesh glass taking up most of the door area). The front door to the flat is a fire door. The front door leads to the internal hallway with doors to 2 bedrooms, the lounge and the bathroom. The kitchen door comes off the lounge and is the furthest away from the front door. The kitchen has no other doors, other than the one from the lounge to the kitchen. When exiting the…

Hi - I'd love some advice on fire door requirements following some house 'remodelling' work which has just started. I have attached the new plan which I hope is visible and clear! Our house is three storeys - including a converted loft. Three queries: 1. the door between the utility room and hall corridor - does this need to be a fire door? There will be a door to the garden from the other side of the utility 2.the double doors at the bottom of the stairs - these need to be fire doors. Can they be glazed? 3. do bathroom and shower room doors on the first floor need to be fire doors? Thanks so much!

i cannot seem to find any info anywhere regarding this type of hinge for a fire door. would this be acceptable if fitted with the correct door frame etc?

Can anyone advise on the most recent regulations regarding fire door gaps? Properties concerned are mainly HMOs housing vulnerable people that may take longer to evacuate Many thanks Mark Wilson

Hi being relatively new to door inspections I have come across numerous doors that have a Cold Smoke and Fire Seal fitted but the gap is less than 3 mm especially on the hinge side. Is this still acceptable as the brushes do seem a little squashed? Thanks Steve

My question here is not related to the condition of existing fire doors, its related to the verification of existing doors within a building. I work with schools a lot and they have a habit of placing Fire Door signs on every door in the school and as such a lot of them are not or never have been acting as fire doors and as such not all the doors carrying signage need to be maintained. I have approached a few FRA companies, who seem to shy away from specifics stating, they are there to assess risk only and don't want to de classify fire doors on a site. My two questions are; Is there a specific company that I can use based in the SE of the UK to under…

Hello There, I am looking for a bit of advice. We are installing new fire doors with rebated intumescent strips and smoke seal brush into existing frames in a school. I am wondering if it is necessary for us to also install surface mounted fire door seals onto the frame or whether this is just unnecessary. Thanks

I live in a 6th floor flat. I have just found out that not all my doors are fire doors as the previous owner must have changed some of them! I will be having fire doors put in as soon as possible but am wondering if I need any fd60 doors? I have an open plan living room and kitchen leading into the main hallway. Does this door need to be fd60 or will fd30 be fine?

Recently, the emergency services forced entry into my flat as my partners health/safety was at risk. An emergency locksmith was called after the incident (very expensive), so the property is secure but there is damage to the woodwork (see images attached). I have no doubt that this means I am obliged to replace the door, as the damage does appear to be past the point of repair. What price point would I be looking at for an FD30 door to be fitted? Thank you for any advice!

Hi. I manage a care home and we have been requested by the fire officer to replace a fair number of internal doors with FD30 doors and frames. It's a listed building and you can imagine the costs will be exorbitant, very disruptive to the dementia residents and not preserving the heritage of the building. What are the options to avoid a full replacement and instead use other methodologies and technologies to achieve the same outcome? Are there companies that specialise in this that I can contact to get quotes from to discuss with the fire officer?