Fire Doors and Accessories

We have to router the head of the door to fit intumescent strip but this ruins the certificate sticker on the door. So we take pics of it before as evidence. There is no way of moving sticker as when you try to take it off it just breaks up. And can we cut head of door to fit out of level frame head to.

Is there any requirement to have handles on a 30 min fire door ? I have yale type night latches with no little button to hold the latch (do they need to be fire rated and stamped ?) and seperate mortice euro locks with no handles but with thumb turn cylinder inside. eg can I have the yale type latch and two mortice locks with thumb turns ? or is that too many locks on one door ? thankyou

Hi, I am in the process of arranging for my fire doors to be upgtaded. The joiner who does a lot of these told me the max 4mm gap is not possible as the door wouldnt close properly with the intumescent strips fitted. Is that correct ? Thanks

Hi Iv recently won a contract up grading the iron mongary and fire/smoke seal on old fire doors. I know the gap has to be 3-4 mm but a lot of these doors have a decent leading edge on them. Will this fail the door? as it makes the door stop side edge over 4mm when the door is shut.... also if the 8mm hard wood edging has been completely planed through does this affect the integrity of the door? Thanks chudy

Hello All! I have recently taken over the fire safety within the Company I am working for. They have never done any fire door checks. When undertaking this, I found that 7/10 of the doors on the main escape route had more than a 4mm gap between the door leaf and frame (top and sides). What is the best solution to correct this? Can i just add strips of wood the door frames to correct this gap? Is this solution accepted? Thanks in advance.

I have a general enquiry which I was hoping someone may be able to advise on. My property management company has recently installed fire doors and I am concerned that they do not conform to regulations in that the door opens inwards over carpet and obviously has to be able to slide closed. However, as soon as the door is closed the other side of the threshold which does not have a thick carpet means there is a 1-2 inch gap at the bottom of the fire door. The surveyor's excuse is that it is because my carpet is too thick but as the carpet was already in place, I do not know what needs to be done to ensure that the gap is reduced (As I understand it, there should not be mor…

Hello, Our building inspector has asked us to upgrade several door sets to FD30 in our 1909 house. For most of these I would much rather do this by upgrading the existing doors to nominal Fd30 doors and am confident that I have the practical skills I need. A previous inspector had said this would be fine and that there would be a straightforward solution for our doors. The problem I have is that the doors are all a little over 30mm thick. Why are nominal doors normally required to be 44mm thick or more? Is the requirement for a nominal fire door to be 44mm thick or greater an absolute rule, or is there a way round this? Thanks in advance Peter

Hi Our flat which is arranged over two floors is on the top floor of a 3 storey purpose built block of 6 flats which was built in the 80s. All the doors are self closing doors. We are renovating and have seen a door on eBay. Do all the doors need to be self closing including the bathroom and what standard should they be ? Thanks

Dear all: I live in a house with 4 flats.: Flat 1 (ground), Flat 2 (1st floor), Flat 3 (2nd floor, my flat) and I have recently bought the top flat (Flat 4). The entrance doors for my 2 flats (3 and 4) are in the 2nd floor, as Flat 4 has the stairs within the property. I only have to open a wall in a corridor to communicate them and put a fire door there. Now the Building control team in the council said it should be an F60 door, but I have been advised by a fire expert I only need an F30, because it is not in the communal corridor, it will be in between the 2 properties that we own, nobody can go further up in the building. Could you please advise what kind of…

I wonder if anyone has come across this problem before. A supported living scheme is to provide a home for one young man with very high support needs. There will always be 3 staff to one resident. Apparently standard self-closers cannot be used on the fire doors because of tampering risk from resident. I suggested Perko or Perkomatic be considered but the joiners have responded as follows: "We have looked into various options for the door closures at Sandford lane which also include the standard Perkos and Perkomatics but we cant see how these are going to work with the anti-slam mechanism installed to the heads of the doors. These would be working against each o…

Does a storage room in a Chinese take away require a fire door when the room is set back from the kitchen and is not within the means of escape

I’ve an early 1900s 3 storey holiday let, it has 4 bedrooms which occupy the 2/3rd floors it has one stairwell, travel distance is 16mtrs to exit from furthest bedroom , it has a D LD2 fire alarm system, I’m wondering whether I need FD30s fire doors to protect the escape route or solid timber doors with closers would be sufficient

I had some FD30S fire doors fitted in a block of flats complete with a FIRAS installation certificate in 2017; however, when I inspected the doors I could not see the smoke seal, only what looked like a draft excluder around the frame. I questioned this with the manufacturer, and they said the Aquamac 21 weather seals were the smoke seal. I have asked for the data sheet, but does anyone know if a weather seal is essentially the same as a smoke seal? I can't see any reference to Aquamac 21 having BS 476 31.1 testing. Thanks, Mike

Hi Could you tell me the maximum spacings for the fixing of a fire door frame . I usually come 150mm from top and the bottom, put one in the centre and split the difference of the other two. Making that five fixings per side. I have been told by another installer that new regulations are 100mm max top and bottom and 450mm max spacings centre to centre. Are there any different regulations for fd30, fd60 etc Many thanks

Hi all, I have found some fire doors (FD30 and FD60, timber) which have baffled me and am looking for some guidance if possible. The first thing I looked for was the certification label on the top of the door. Several are missing, however several have been damaged by intumescent fire strips (the brush type) these are literally going straight through the labels on the actual door rather than door frame. Am I correct in thinking these are been retro fitted at a later date? Unfortunately the labels are so badly damaged I cannot see any details. In addition, there is a black "foam" style material all around the door frame which sits flush with the door (well ki…

We are having our front door replaced with a composite door ( non fire door ) that opens onto a path. Our management company say after the grenfell tower fire it needs to be a fire door. Is this true?

Does a door from a single staircase on to a second floor balcony providing access to three flats need to be a fire door, e.g. to an FD30 or FD30S standard? The staircase only serves that floor, as the ground/first floor maisonettes are independently and externally accessible, and the building is of concrete construction. The stair is considered 'sterile'. The travel distance between the protected stair and the door to the furthest flat is 14m, and the window openings onto the balcony are at least 1.1m above the finished floor level. Thanks

Are fire doors required on the top floor ( 4 therapy rooms) of a large 3 storey single staircase house converted to small meeting rooms and offices to multiple leaseholders? Thanks

What is the allowed gap allowed at the lock on an FD60s fire door ?

Hi all, I had a question about installing fire door assemblies in commercial premises. I get asked about installing fire door assemblies very rarely. Probably 3-4 times a year. I looked into the BM Trada Q Mark qualification but unfortunately the annual membership makes it prohibitively expensive. It's a shame because I want to do the right thing and I would love to do the course. There is just not an option for low volume installs. My question is, would I be able to install a fire door assembly, inspect it (I'm going for my CertFDI at the moment) and write out a cert? Basically I would be the installer and the Inspector certifying the install. I will hav…

I’m trying to determine why my flat has two doors. The first door from the shared hallway opens into a space approx 1m x 1m then there is another door that goes into the flat. Neither door looks like a fire door they just look like cheap ply doors. Anyone have any ideas about why this arrangement might be in place or recommendations for advice on ensuring the flat is fire safe? Thank you

Hi Got new 54mm thick doors fitted in an assisted living building, 2 wings, 2 storey, the doors close automatic about 9.45 p.m but if anybody uses them after that time, or the paper boy before 7.00 a.m the doors slam shut, make hell of a bang and shake the walls of the nearest flats ? I think the closers could probably be adjusted to make them close softer but Why cant the doors be left open all the time considering they are attached to the alarm system anyway ?

Had the following query today and wasn't able to assist so here it is: "We have several seals that are worn and need replacing, is it ok for our maintenance department to change these or do we need to get a registered person to do this?" Thank you F

Hi My apartment has a small landing which is shared with another apartment there is a fire door which allows access and egress which has a fire do FD30. Do the 2 apartments need to have self closing devices on them.The 2 apartments doors are fire doors with no self closing devices on them. Thanks

Hi there, I was after some advice. I live in a small block of flats. We are lucky enough to have two internal means of escape (an exit at each end of the building). Our existing entrance doors are old solid doors but unlikely to be classed as a fire door. We have a fully functioning fire alarm system with detectors in every flat. As there are two means of escape available to all residents how important is it that we get compliant fire doors installed? Would this be essential or more of a recommendation? Many thanks- James