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  2. Safelincs

    Servicing of small extinguishers

    While the British Standards recommends annual servicing for all extinguishers, this is not legally binding. You must, however, have a way of maintaining your extinguishers in an operational state. You could, for example, replace your extinguisher every year or, in the case of small extinguishers, you could have regular visual and other self-inspection (is the pressure gauge showing green, can you hear the powder flowing freely inside, is the tamper tag still present, is there any damage visible) and just replace every 5 years. Or you can go for a small service-free extinguisher that only requires visual inspection and replacement after ten years. Harry
  3. James Cullum

    Entrance doors.

    Hi I live in and own a ground floor flat in an old converted house. My flat is accessed via a communal door and then immediately by my fire door main private entrance. Now behind that door is a very small area consisting of 2walls and a further fire door which leads to my hall. This area between the 2 doors must only be a meter square of floor space. One of the two walls is just a stud wall as is the second door the other wall is a brick wall that forms part of the 1st bedroom wall on the opposite side. With this space being so small and pointless it makes getting large items in and out tricky. My question is can I remove the second door and stud wall to make the main fire door open into my main hallway or is that second door a requirement by law? Many thanks james
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  5. Hi there, I am looking at fitting some Paxton Paxlock Pro door locks to some doors in our offices (https://www.paxton.co.uk/products.asp?id=011,24&strStage=product_page&strFamily=net2&strGroup=group-05145) to provide a basic access control system in our offices. These locks allow use of the mechanical handle on the secure side at all times. The locks are wireless and disable the handle on the insecure side until a token has been offered and access granted via the software controller. They don't utilise any maglocks or electronic strikes and essentially are self contained using battery power as they access control side is proximity activated (i.e. they are in power save until someone uses a token - then they authenticate with the system). From the manufacturers site, they are EN179 Certified for emergency exits and FD30 and FD60 certified for fire doors The query I have is whether we need an electronic strike to go along with these to allow all doors to be opened from the insecure side in the event of the fire alarm being triggered. As the locks are self contained and proximity activated from the insecure side, they wouldn't work with a break glass type device on the lock itself but I wasn't sure whether we would need a strike that is connected to the fire alarm (to fail open in event of an alarm) as there is free exit from the secure side of the doors (as the handle mechanically allows exit all the time) and no other access control used on the final exit door. i.e. it's a clear path from the secure side to the fire exits. None of the doors which would have these locks fitter are final exit doors. I have attached a rough image of floor layout, numbered icons represent doors where the locks would be fitted and the green path indicates the planned escape routes - the route in the back stairwell leads down to a fire exit door on the lower level (this would be in the top right hand corner of the diagram if we were looking at the bottom level). I hope the above is enough detail / appreciate any comments. Ed
  6. Hi I have operatives on a construction site who complete hot works, so in addition to the necessary fire points on every floor of the buildings they work on, they carry a small fire extinguisher. We have been asked this week if we have service stickers and checks for these portable extinguishers. Now, the extinguishers cost less than £10 so is it worth looking into getting them serviced annually or should we purchase a brand new extinguisher every year? Are there stickers available that we can confirm date of purchase and when a test is due that we can stick on on the date of purchase that then states service is due one year later and then just replace the entire device and a new sticker? Thanks in advance for any replies.
  7. Without a proper description of the premises I cannot say, but you need to check out what fire alarms are required using HOUSING – FIRE SAFETY Guidance on fire safety provisions for certain types of existing housing. If a cat A type is required, then what you call a fire alarm should remain with a cat D in the flats and this is the situation in most three storey premises.
  8. Tom Sutton

    All doors removed In rented property

    Without knowing a lot more about the situation it is impossible to give definitive answer, I would think the means of escape from fire (MoE) was designed, taking into account the doors in place, by removing them, it is going to worsen the MoE, even too a dangerous condition. As it is a rented premises then it is subject to The Smoke and Carbon Monoxide Alarm (England) Regulations 2015 which require the landlord to provide smoke and CO detectors.
  9. Tom Sutton

    closer for 257 HMO flat door

    Assuming this is a required fire door then the automatic self closing device should conform to BS EN 1154:1997 Building Hardware – Controlled Door Closing Devices. Any paperwork with the self closer should confirm this.
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  11. It won't be a rewire but an Electrical Installation Condition Report which whilst normally recommended every 10 years in domestic premises is usually 5 where they are rented. No expiry on doors as long as in good order however the one fitted in 2014 could be from one of the batches that failed fire tests and didn't meet the advertised fire resistance so needs replacing.
  12. No green light means that there is no power supply. Have you flicked the fuse back on after changing the battery? Harry
  13. Thanks for all your help and advice. I'm new to the site so my messages need to be approved before they are posted, thus taking a little longer than expected. Your help has been very much appreciated. Kind regards
  14. Can someone help me on two subjects one is how offered do you need your council flat rewired my was last done 2014 and council want to come back again this year and the other subject is how offered do you change your front door as this was done About the same time and has new laws come into force for them to change this door yet again
  15. Hideyspidey

    All doors removed In rented property

    Hi, I have just been to a friend's house . She just started renting it and has removed all the internal doors. The house is about 12 years old. I said that it must be a fire risk but she said her landlord said it was fine. Also, she has no co detector anywhere but does have 2 smoke alarms. Am I wrong? Shouldn't there be a co detector and can't doors help prevent the spread of fire? Thanks
  16. Neil Ashdown CertFDI

    When and where are fire doors required in office building?

    The guidance document AnthonyB refers to (I think) is 'Timber Panelled Doors and Fire' dating back to the 1990's but still relevant.
  17. Hi My smoke alarm has no green light but flashes red light every 40s we changed the battery in it once because it started bleeping but it's late at night 2am what do we do
  18. You can upgrade heritage doors to 30 minutes performance using a variety of methods that are usually compatible with their listing. English Heritage provide guidance and Envirograf many suitable products
  19. Thanks for your reply Tom. And for the link. It's actually myself thats been tasked with the job of carrying out a fire risk assessment, but my experience is quite limited so i'm trying to gather as much information regarding the legislation as possible. With regards to the government guidance attached in your response, it seems to suggest that as long as the fire risk is normal i.e. offices with small numbers of people, that predominantly employees use the building, that there are alternative means of escape and that travel distances are within the suggested distance described in Table B, Page 68; then fire doors may not be deemed a requirement? The building is of typical layout, although the stairs are not protected, the travel distances are well within the recommendations in the above mentioned table and most if not all persons in the building will know the layout. There is L1 fire alarm coverage as well. I'm thinking the inner room, kitchen and head of the stairs are the only rooms that require fire doors?
  20. It may be useful to check out https://www.firesafe.org.uk/fire-risk-assessment/.
  21. To design a means of escape from fire you need access to the premises and/or detailed plan of the premises. Section 4 of https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/422175/9449_Offices_and_Shops_v2.pdf will give you guidance how a satisfactory means of escape can be acheived, trying to do it by remote control is not possible, but you could employ a fire risk assessor.
  22. Tom Sutton

    Remove internal fire door

    The doors opening onto the staircase enclosure should be FD20 doors and a substantial well fitting standard door should achieve that standard. It is considered the head of the household with concern for his/her family will ensure all doors are closed at bedtime so ADB does not require automatic self-closers and therefore there will be a adequate means of escape from all habitable rooms using the staircase enclosure to the front door. During the waking hours the risk is less and everybody should be aware if there is a fire on the premises.
  23. jon

    closer for 257 HMO flat door

    Hi Is there a particular door closer i need for an internal flat door in a 257 HMO? thanks Jon
  24. Tom Sutton

    INTUMESCENT PIPE COLLAR DILEMMA

    Repeat submission.
  25. Tom Sutton

    INTUMESCENT PIPE COLLAR DILEMMA

    You first need to clean up the plaster work then measure the size of collar, depth, diameter and rating you require, then contact the experts like Envirograf at https://envirograf.com/product/intumescent-collar/ and get their advice.
  26. Hi, thanks for the reply. I was a bit unclear, the door is at the ground floor dividing the corridor to a sitting room, nearby there is the front door the sitting room window and stairs. I'm not into building my first though would be that removing the door a fire that start in the sitting room would propagate easier up the stairs. From what I understand these are FD certified timber internal door without a self closing mechanism and we don't usually keep them closed. Thanks for the support Nick
  27. I am working in an old listed building, previously used as a GP surgery, that is now being renovated into an office building. The building has two floors and a basement. There are three fire exits on the ground floor and an external wooden staircase from the first floor. As the building is listed the council are requesting to keep the internal doors as they are, however I feel FD30(S) fire doors should be considered. However, I cannot find any legislation that provides a detailed explanation of when and where fire doors are required. The building is medium sized with 4 offices on the ground floor and four offices and a kitchen on the first floor. It seems excessive to request fire doors on every room as there is there is an L1 fire detection system throughout the building and alternative means of escape. I've suggested installing five fire doors, covering the kitchen, an inner room and distances created than 18 metres. Is anyone able to help me with this?
  28. Tom Sutton

    Remove internal fire door

    According to Approved Document B (fire safety) volume 1: Dwellinghouses section 2 it could be argued that your proposals are acceptable providing you have escape windows in all habitable rooms. But I would consider it foolhardy, because the best means of escape, upstairs, from fire, in a semi detached house is out of the bedroom, into the staircase enclosure down the stairs and out of the front door, also it could be available for a reasonable length of time. Having to use escape windows is a last resort and with your proposals within the first minutes of a fire in the sitting room ( high risk) the staircase would be lost and the escape windows the only way. Consider your option carefully.
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