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  3. Lyledunn


    We don’t have AI’s here but as an erstwhile director responsible for compliance in a building refurbishment company where projects were mostly design and build, have continually found need to question determinations made by Building Control officers. I do so with the utmost respect but also with tenacity with my case founded on well-researched material. I have often been totally wrong but I have also saved my company many thousands of pounds. End of the day we all want compliant, safe and functional buildings. All parties in such disputes should be gracious rather than belligerent, which, unfortunately, can often be the case.
  4. The certification for the new fire door leaf will state the specification requirements for the timber door frame.
  5. Why would you need to divide the corridor? Division only required where alternative escape routes could be compromised. Note swing of doors should be in direction of travel, unless less than 60 occupancy. Even then, effort should be made to avoid such a situation. You might get a better outcome through BS9999 which if properly employed can allow some valuable trade-offs. Your travel distance is from the furthest point, even should it be a store or loo.
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  7. If the appearance of the doors is the issue there are loads of compliant decorative timber and composite fire doors you can install - you aren't limited to a bland & plain leaf - so you could change the doors and remain compliant (although strictly speaking the frame must be certified with the door for full reliability as fire doors are usually tested as doorsets with a particular frame)
  8. There will be nothing left to list too if a fire is allowed to spread through the building, so much heritage is lost by fire due to short sightedness.
  9. I would contact local building control on this one.
  10. If you take the risk, one consequence could be a problem if you decide to sell the house. Another consequence could be a problem if there's a fire.
  11. As you say, an auto-drop seal will not solve the 'soup-bowl' issue. And a static door bottom seal will either not fully seal the gap or cause the door to bind on the step. So there's a choice; fire door compliance or fire door non-compliance (BS8214). In my experience, non-compliance seems to be the popular choice.
  12. If it's just a door to the public highway then the Council are taking rubbish as there never was and still isn't such a requirement.
  13. The doors or the signs? The signs have to been green, the doors don't.
  14. Hi tom, this basically answered a question i had about my flat. The council are claiming my front door has to be replaced with a firedoor with a self clising arm. Problem is im in a wheelchair (paraplegic) and i wont be able to open the door easily from inside especially and from outside. In fact i would argue a door that closes itself and creates the need for greater leverage to open actually makesbmy front door a potential trap for me. Where do i stand here? (excuse the pun!) have i any safety legal standpoints i can use to avoid this chamge. I live in a madonette , ground floor of a 2 story(3 level) set of flats. My front door opens to the street. Not a shared common area. In fact its the main road. Thanks in advance
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    Colour of fire exits

    Hi There, we are in the middle of an office refurbishment and are wondering if fire exits need to be a certain colour. They are green at the moment but we would like them to be red.
  16. Judging this in isolation. This defect appears to have been caused by the fixing screw being inserted without sufficient piloting. Fortunately, the split in the hardwood lipping appears to be slight. If the this is a new door installation, then the defect should not be accepted. The door should be repaired by re-lipping in accordance with its certification (if its a fire door). If the door is existing and say been there since the building was built, then ask yourself how long has it been like this? Let's say the answer is two years. Has the defect got worse in those two years? YES or NO From the picture, it looks like the answer could be no, so you could justify filling with acrylic wood filler and monitoring the defect.
  17. We are having a bit of a discussion about the art of the possible with the defect on the door in the image what repair should be made. 1. Ignored 2. Monitored 3. Re-lipped 4. Replaced Any advice would be greatly appreciated
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    Flat Entrance Door

    I have a flat which is G2 listed, it needs a new fd30 door as part of upgrade works, however my door step is solid stone and planners say I have to keep, that's fine however they do not want a threshold on the door step (door step is 150 years old and has that natural wear in the centre) this cause me a potential gap under the door, that a normal drop seal doesn't cover Any ideas regards Chris
  19. Thanks Mike / Tom, much appreciated......sometimes you do question yourself!
  20. The 400mm rule is a relaxation and applies only to a private stair. Private or otherwise, there is nothing in the technical booklet that would suggest consideration needs to be afforded for pocket doors on to stairs. I am in NI, still part of this completely disunited United Kingdom!
  21. Ha Ha......This is fire doors we are talking about. Thanks.
  22. Hi all, I need to some clarification around fire doors. I’ve just bought a three storey house in Scotland which was built in 2004. The property has fire doors fitted to all the rooms. I want to update the property inside, paint / new kitchen etc, so this won’t require any planning permission. Assuming I accept the risks involved can I replace these doors, or do they have to stay as they are? Thanks in advance, Dan
  23. AnthonyB


    Glad to hear it! Sometimes it's right to question things and in any case the law isn't prescriptive so alternatives can be OK if shown to be effective.
  24. Could a glazier cut a sheet to size? May be cheaper than replacing the whole lot.
  25. Your normal entrance is a fire exit, and if the distance from the furthest part of the office to the exit is less than 18m (possibly going up to 25m in new guidance) then it's compliant. The kitchen and toilet sound like inner rooms so there should be smoke detection in the main office (the access room) so that you would be alerted early enough to pass any fire in order to escape.
  26. Hello, We are looking for some advice on our property. We have extensively renovated our four-storey Victorian terrace and we are wondering whether we need fire doors on all the habitable rooms off the hallways to an exit? The property has always been a four-storey house but we have greatly improved the property and added a small two-storey extension and properly tanked out the basement to make it more liveable. We intended to replace all the original cheap doors with accoya doors and I would like to advice on whether, by regulations, the new doors must be fire doors. The original doors were not fire doors. The habitable rooms have not changed dimensionally, only improved. Many thanks,
  27. I am not aware of any fire safety document that indicate this, in so precise terms but Approved Document M requires principal communal entrances to be a certain full width which you would not be able to achieve if the door did not open the full 90 degrees.
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