Fire Doors and Accessories

Hi. Probably a daft question but there is only one British Standard regarding fire doors irrespective what the door is made from? Ie wood or composite . The gaps around the door seem to vary on FD30s doors from 3mm to in some cases 10mm at a job I have been on. The client has gone back to the manufacturer and installer and their reply to the customer is they meet the standards for composite doors, where I have failed them on an inspection due to the gap sizes. To me it looks like bad installation , but as this is the reply from them to the customer it has made me think. In some cases where is is a 6mm gap the smoke seal brushes are actually making contact with…

Hello My elderly mum has moved into an older person's apartment. The fire door is far too heavy for her. She is unable to even open the door. If the tension is altered it snaps shut fast and is dangerous. Do you know of an alternative that meets fire regs but will enable her to open the door with ease. I struggle to use it and I’m fit and well. With thanks Toni

Not sure if I posted this as a guest by mistake. Are batwing type seals acceptable as smoke seals. I have been told by one seal company they were hot gas tested not cold smoke tested and I am finding them used a lot in housing associations in some cases as well as brushes on composite doors. Please help are they acceptable as smoke seals. Thanks

I live in a block of flats which has 3 main entrances at the front of the building. There are 2 corridors on the ground floor which lead to reception areas and I live at the end of one of these corridors. At either end of the corridor, there are fire doors and to change the flow of walking traffic late at night I am in discussions with the managing agent of my block to see if any solution can be found. Would it be possible to fix keypads with emergency exit latches a bit like the below in that sort of arrangement? https://www.safelincs.co.uk/exidor-297-single-door-push-pad/?sku=EXD297CL1&fGB=true&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI0azF_ueg7QIViOmyCh3LZABuEAQYASABEgLPx_D_…

I occasionally come across double-leaf fire doors with smoke seals on both sides of the meeting stiles. Is this a valid configuration? To be effective, a smoke seal should surely be making contact with a solid surface rather than an opposing seal. A further consequence of such configurations is that the overall meeting stile gap tends to be greater than that of doorsets where just a single smoke seal exists. Thanks in advance for any guidance!

The block of flats that I live in has recently been told (by the original developer who we got in to check something else) that the gaps between the fire doors and the frames are larger than they should be due to “natural shrinkage of the wooden doors over time”. They were installed 5 years ago. The solution we've been given is to remove the doors, pack out the frames to make the gaps smaller and re-hang the doors and have been quoted £26,800+VAT for doing so (for 80 fire doors – the number is high due to the number of service cupboards). Should fire doors meeting required standards shrink in that manner? If they are likely to shrink again, are we better of…

We have just completed a small restaurant with kitchen to rear. Relatively large open serving hatch direct in to sales area (no shutters) with door adjacent. That is fairly typical nowadays. Client wanted to remove door for ease of access. Door is a FD30s. Only one exit to front so customers seeing a fire situation can turn their back on the fire and make an immediate exit. BC will not permit removal of door. Anyone up for wrestling with the logic?

any advice please i have a friend who lives in a housing association ex local authority high rise block of flats, he is a leaseholder, he has been told he will need to replace his flat entrance door . the current door was fit in 2004 it is a mila composite door wing frames are glazed with wire cast the frame does have intumescent strips and a door closer i am sure that at the time the door was fit that it met guidelines at that time although he as no longer got any documents to specify that the door is fire rated , am i correct in thinking that without any documentary evidence that the housing association are correct in asking him to have another fit?

Hi, I have had a loft conversation, so my house is now 3 storey, do I need a fire rated door on the 1st floor bathroom? My understanding is that if it’s not a habitual room I don’t need one, all my other doors are fire rated. Thanks Suz

We recently moved into a 3rd Floor Flat with very noisily closing Fire Doors on each landing stairwell. These doors are fitted with Overhead Damper type closing devices. They close very slowly from 90 deg to around 10-15 degrees and then the final 10 degrees they BANG shut. A locksmith I recently employed insisted that this is the wrong way around, he said, they should close from 90 degrees very fast and then SLOW Down to a gentle close on the last 10 or 15 degrees. Is this correct as the NOISE from these fire doors BANGING is driving us all MAD. Thanks, Ron

I'm a newcomer to this. I'm looking to replace the TUFF 4" BRASS fd60 HINGES ON ABOUT 15 DOORS (3 PER). The hinges have all been painted over andi cannot remove the paint. The question is, are the fixing patterns (ANSI) for hinges the same or will the hole positions be different? Thanks for any help

I've just inspected a batch of FD60 fire doors in a large block of flats, each of which has been retrofitted with a single 15mm intumescent fire and smoke seal. As far as I'm aware, unless otherwise stated on the fire certificate or if a certificate cannot be identified, FD60 default intumescent seal configurations should comprise either a single 20mm or 2 x 15mm. Does anyone know if historically, a single 15mm intumescent seal was ever acceptable on an FD60 doorset and if so, when did this change? Thanks in advance.

Hi everyone, I have encountered a 30 minute fire door that has been routed too deeply for the fitting of intumescent/ cold smoke seals. The cold smoke seals are now flush with the edge of the door, thus making them ineffective. Could anyone please tell me if there is an acceptable repair technique to correct this.. Thank you in advance for the assistance. Paul

We live in a grade 2* listed and award winning housing estate built in 1974.it has 76 flatsThe front doors to the flats are the original fire doors , designed especially for the estate. they are solid hardwood with frosted georgian wired glazed panels The freeholder wants to take them all out and replace them with something which in no way resembles the originalThe fire officer in his RFA however recommends putting closers and smoke seals on them but the freeholder says they cannot be tested and certified which is now a requirementunfortunately the listed buildings officer is not being helpful and discussing this with usWe would very much welcome an opinion as to if these…

Hi, I think I know the answer to this one, but I’m after another opinion. As a joinery manufacturer, can I manufacture fire doors, even if I am not certified by certifire/qmark/etc? Can i just follow the door blank manufacturers field of application specifications, ie. glazing system, intumescent strips, specified ironmongery, to the letter, and offer this as a nominal fire door? TIA

We're a small company. We had a health and safety advisor come out to do a general assessment. He noticed that there was no intumescent strip or smoke seal on one of our doors. Our H&S advisor recommended that we do not fit them ourselves, I spoke to the company who did our fire alarms and they do not offer any kind of service to fit this for us. Could anyone point me in the right direction of what kind of company would be able to help me?

Hi there, I work at a gym and we need to put some security on our changing room doors. They are both fire doors and there are fire routes leading from inside the changing room out of them. I want to put a coded lock on the door which will have a handle on the inside to allow exit. Is this permitted with it being a fire route? Does the handle have to be a certain type, size etc? Thanks in advance for your help!

I understand all fire doors except domestic should have signage on, do flat entrance doors require fire signage too?

The lock on a service cuboard in a communal area in our flats has had the lock broken to gain entry. Would this fail a fire risk assessment as I'm trying to sell my flat. The cuboard has a fire keep shut sign and contains cable a satellite connections. Someone has fitted a star key type dead lock to keep it shut.

Can FD30 internal fire doors be used as Flat entrance doors with the addition of the requisite hardware?

I have a 686 door lining but there is a gap of 50mm from lining to internal brick wall, is this to big for foam ? Thank you in advance

Hello everybody We have recently replaced 3 budget range overhead door closers with DDA approved ones on some inner front doors on a residential development. The budget closers were closing all doors lovely but the client required something a little lighter for the older residents ease of use . Since fitting the DDA closers we now have a serve Vacuum problem that didn’t really appear to be present beforehand. Is it possible that somehow or for some reason the DDA’s have highlighted the problem more than the budget closers were ? Any thoughts or ideas would be great or possible solutions . We don’t have the option of vents etc so could do with …

Hi Can anyone help me with this question. When you fit new hinges to a fire door do you fit intumescent pads to both the door and frame? Thanks

I need advice on the size of the vision panels seen in most fire doors. Also is there a supplier who supplies just the individual vision panel as i have a hardwood door but i need to put in a vision panel so hence the need to buy a separate one. thanks

Hi can someone advise, regards fire door seals, some have a nylon brush type on both sides and along the top but others have rubber blade type, which ne is correct and is there a preference ? Thanks :)