Fire Doors and Accessories

We recently moved into a 3rd Floor Flat with very noisily closing Fire Doors on each landing stairwell. These doors are fitted with Overhead Damper type closing devices. They close very slowly from 90 deg to around 10-15 degrees and then the final 10 degrees they BANG shut. A locksmith I recently employed insisted that this is the wrong way around, he said, they should close from 90 degrees very fast and then SLOW Down to a gentle close on the last 10 or 15 degrees. Is this correct as the NOISE from these fire doors BANGING is driving us all MAD. Thanks, Ron

I'm a newcomer to this. I'm looking to replace the TUFF 4" BRASS fd60 HINGES ON ABOUT 15 DOORS (3 PER). The hinges have all been painted over andi cannot remove the paint. The question is, are the fixing patterns (ANSI) for hinges the same or will the hole positions be different? Thanks for any help

I've just inspected a batch of FD60 fire doors in a large block of flats, each of which has been retrofitted with a single 15mm intumescent fire and smoke seal. As far as I'm aware, unless otherwise stated on the fire certificate or if a certificate cannot be identified, FD60 default intumescent seal configurations should comprise either a single 20mm or 2 x 15mm. Does anyone know if historically, a single 15mm intumescent seal was ever acceptable on an FD60 doorset and if so, when did this change? Thanks in advance.

Hi everyone, I have encountered a 30 minute fire door that has been routed too deeply for the fitting of intumescent/ cold smoke seals. The cold smoke seals are now flush with the edge of the door, thus making them ineffective. Could anyone please tell me if there is an acceptable repair technique to correct this.. Thank you in advance for the assistance. Paul

We live in a grade 2* listed and award winning housing estate built in 1974.it has 76 flatsThe front doors to the flats are the original fire doors , designed especially for the estate. they are solid hardwood with frosted georgian wired glazed panels The freeholder wants to take them all out and replace them with something which in no way resembles the originalThe fire officer in his RFA however recommends putting closers and smoke seals on them but the freeholder says they cannot be tested and certified which is now a requirementunfortunately the listed buildings officer is not being helpful and discussing this with usWe would very much welcome an opinion as to if these…

Hi, I think I know the answer to this one, but I’m after another opinion. As a joinery manufacturer, can I manufacture fire doors, even if I am not certified by certifire/qmark/etc? Can i just follow the door blank manufacturers field of application specifications, ie. glazing system, intumescent strips, specified ironmongery, to the letter, and offer this as a nominal fire door? TIA

We're a small company. We had a health and safety advisor come out to do a general assessment. He noticed that there was no intumescent strip or smoke seal on one of our doors. Our H&S advisor recommended that we do not fit them ourselves, I spoke to the company who did our fire alarms and they do not offer any kind of service to fit this for us. Could anyone point me in the right direction of what kind of company would be able to help me?

Hi there, I work at a gym and we need to put some security on our changing room doors. They are both fire doors and there are fire routes leading from inside the changing room out of them. I want to put a coded lock on the door which will have a handle on the inside to allow exit. Is this permitted with it being a fire route? Does the handle have to be a certain type, size etc? Thanks in advance for your help!

I understand all fire doors except domestic should have signage on, do flat entrance doors require fire signage too?

The lock on a service cuboard in a communal area in our flats has had the lock broken to gain entry. Would this fail a fire risk assessment as I'm trying to sell my flat. The cuboard has a fire keep shut sign and contains cable a satellite connections. Someone has fitted a star key type dead lock to keep it shut.

Can FD30 internal fire doors be used as Flat entrance doors with the addition of the requisite hardware?

I have a 686 door lining but there is a gap of 50mm from lining to internal brick wall, is this to big for foam ? Thank you in advance

Hello everybody We have recently replaced 3 budget range overhead door closers with DDA approved ones on some inner front doors on a residential development. The budget closers were closing all doors lovely but the client required something a little lighter for the older residents ease of use . Since fitting the DDA closers we now have a serve Vacuum problem that didn’t really appear to be present beforehand. Is it possible that somehow or for some reason the DDA’s have highlighted the problem more than the budget closers were ? Any thoughts or ideas would be great or possible solutions . We don’t have the option of vents etc so could do with …

Hi Can anyone help me with this question. When you fit new hinges to a fire door do you fit intumescent pads to both the door and frame? Thanks

I need advice on the size of the vision panels seen in most fire doors. Also is there a supplier who supplies just the individual vision panel as i have a hardwood door but i need to put in a vision panel so hence the need to buy a separate one. thanks

Hi can someone advise, regards fire door seals, some have a nylon brush type on both sides and along the top but others have rubber blade type, which ne is correct and is there a preference ? Thanks :)

Hi, I am going to fit a new fire door with frame to a kitchen entrance. I want to do everything right but I can’t afford the price I am being asked to get the fire door done. However, I am ready to do my homework using this forum and other sources and to buy all the correct parts necessary to ensure the fire door plays its role fully and that it passes any potential checks by the local authority. I am going to get a fire rated lining which has the groove already for the intumescent seal. This means I will not need to route the door. I will also be using all the intumescent strips that come with the fire rated latch, hinges and knob. I do not intend to install a …

Hi , I wondered if there is a pamphlet regarding the regulations re fitting fire doors. We are converting a loft in an old house . 1) do we have to fit imtumecent seals, if we have a ready made fire door? 2) if we fit the seals to excisting doors does that make them fire proof to standard? 3) do we have to do anything else to the frames? thanks for your time, I hope you can help us. charlie

Hello Everybody, I am in need to replace an old Astra concealed closer which broke down. Do I need to find a certified installer or any locksmith would do? If the former is there a list/website to find one. Would I also need a certificate after the work is completed? Thanks a lot, Tony

Unlatched fire doors are obviously solely reliant on the self-closing device to provide an opening resistance which in turn, maintains the leaf securely against the frame stops in a fire situation. However, I cannot find any reference as to what this minimum force should be. Is there a guideline minimum opening resistance and how should this be measured? In more extreme cases, it's generally easy to spot such defects (e.g. communal fire doors opened by draughts) but there must surely be a more scientific method to identify potentially dangerous unlatched fire doors which may not exhibit such obvious failure symptoms? Thanks in advance.

Hi, I am looking to replace an existing composite door (with side panel) with a new timber rated fire door-set. At the head of the door frame on the existing door I have a gap of approximately 1500 x 2500mm where a couple of services pass through, mainly cables. I am looking to construct a plasterboard partition above my new timber door-set to allow the service to run through and for new ones to be installed, should it be required. Is there an alternative to to using plasterboard or would this be the best solution? Many thanks, David.

I can buy wooden Flat Entrance fire doors & frames (FD30s) but cannot find supplier of frames with sidelight. Can the gap between the fire door frame be infilled with a stud frame + plasterboard?

My client has a double fd60 door set with a 25mm gap under the doors and frame (the frame has timber between it and the ground both sides), presumably face fix smoke seals can be added to the doors but what measures would be required for the frame. Is this a replacement frame standing on the ground?

In a small block of flats (3 floors) we have external flat doors FD30, with intumescent seals, etc. all fitted, and door closers. We want to fit both external and internal door handles as the doors are heavier with the closers. Should door handles/knobs be fire rated at all? To my mind, if they do, only the internal ones need be, but not the external ones on the side of the stairwell. Can you advise? Thanks

Hi, Is a smoke seal rewuired to be fitted in the leaf and the frame or is fitting in one sufficient. Also can you have a smoke seal in the leaf and an intumiscent strip in the frame?