Fire Doors and Accessories
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Hi all. I’m due to remove & replace some 4 panel doors in an old Victorian house. The frames are not of a ‘standard’ height. They are a lot shorter than 1981mm. Heights are 1930mm, 1940mm and 1970mm. Usually, in commercial buildings, I’d get a door blank and lip it after cutting it to size. I’m thinking not, but, am I allowed to trim the bottom of a fire door and fit some hardwood lipping to the bottom? Or does it need to be machined and made to fit the frame?
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Hello all, In my house I need to have firedoors. The two floors of the building have carpets and under the door metallic stripe. ( I don't know if the carpets have the related BS standards.) Based on firedoor's manufacture's manual the gap under the door should me maximum 10mm from the floor. As I can see on the manufacture's manual with the tests of the door they do not have any reference for carpets. Should I consider the carpet as floor or the metallic strip? or the unfinished floor? Any Idea what is appropriate and/or minimum requirement? thank you
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First time on here so please bear with me. I am converting a garage to study and storage area. The garage is a single detached one and I have a side door and have put a window where the door was. There is a partion wall 2/3 of the way down the garage (now a room) do I need to have a fire door and Fire retardent plasterboard as it is not now a garage? Building control say Yes I'm not sure
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My room has a fire door and a door closer but no stickers saying it's a fire door - is that legally allowed - can I remove the closer as it's not marked up as a fire door ?? Can you see my concern Rgds
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I own a 2nd floor flat (above 4.5m) in a converted townhouse. The building was converted into 3 flats back in the 1980s. The 3 owners recently installed FD30s fire doors to each of the flat entrances onto the communal stairway. While the installation was taking place I asked the fire door installer whether I also needed internal fire doors for my kitchen, living room etc (flat currently doesn’t have them) and he said it wasn’t a legal requirement. Since then, however, I’ve read a lot of building regulations online that indicate internal fire doors ARE required for a 2nd floor flat. It’s not clear to me whether such building regulations written in 2007 etc apply…
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I'm having problems with my local authority. There is a fat flap that has passed the following regulations BS476 Part 22 (1987) and prEN1366-3. Thus according to the manufacturers makes a cat flap on a fire door fire safe. Can you confirm this, please. You confirmation of this will be greatly appreciated. thank you Michelle
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I have an apartment in a three story block of flats, that was built in the 1980s. Do I have to replace the entrance fire door to my apartment with one that meets the new standards. As the management company want me to pay over two thousand pounds to replace it.
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Sirs I own a property that is rented and has front and rear doors with access to street and garden respectively. I have received a letter from the Managing Agency indicating i must replace external doors with fire rated ones. Is this correct interpretation of fire safety requirements? Marcus
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Hi, it's been years since I've fitted a fire door and I've a job coming up where I need to replace a door leading from a kitchen to an office so I wanted to run a few question past you folks. The frame will be staying in place so rather than try and fit a fire and smoke seal to the frame, can say a 15mm fire and smoke seal be fitted to both sides and head of the fire door? Also I can't remember intumescent hinge pads being a thing years ago so are they a requirement both on door and frame when a new door is fitted? One last query is due to the door being thicker and the stop needing moved over, are there any requirement s regarding door stops that I should be aware …
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Hi, I have just had an FD30 internal fire door installed between a garage and hallway. The frame of the door has been rebated a fitted by our joiner with an intumescent strip. There is a cold draught coming through the door due to a 3-4mm gap around the whole of the door (between the door and rebated intumescent strip). I have seen that there are intumescent strips with a single, double or triple fin that look like they could act as a smoke seal and draught excluder. Please may someone advise whether the installation of these would be recommended to solve my problem? If so, should I be buying an intumescent strip with a single, double, triple or a si…
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We manage a building which is Grade 2 Listed and the waiting rooms have Paneled Doors which do not currently conform to current regulations, we need some advice as to whether these can in-fact be replaced or where can we find a specialist who will modify the existing doors in order to conform to current standards. We have done a risk assessment and it just states that the doors do not currently conform but we have searched so many fire door contractors and are getting nowhere! The Council do not seem able to assist either!!
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Hi I need some clarification on fire door closure bars in our social housing flats,the flats have 3 levels.when i first moved in 14 years ago the wood and glass fire doors would close quietly with no banging, a couple of years ago the doors were referbed and alot of the old closure bars were removed and new ones fitted. All the doors with new closure bars now slam and the closure bars fail within months sometimes weeks, they are half the size of the old closure bars.whenever workmen come to repair the doors or replace closure bars I always ask if they are correct as they don't seem man enough as the doors are very heavy,they all say that they ain't good enough for these d…
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Hi, I wanted your advice as I am the landlady of a shared house which is let to tenants. A fire door has been fitted to one of the rooms and unfortunately the previous tenant has drilled into it to fit a bolt and lock to it. They have removed this on leaving and filled the small holes with filler. I am wondering whether this will affect the fire proofing of the door and am concerned whether it requires me to completely replace the door with a new one. I would be grateful for any information and advice which you could send me. Thank you Helen
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I hope someone can help, thanks in advance for any advice. I'm renovating my former two storey office premises to add two x one bedroom flats to the ground floor and I currently live in the first floor flat. Each flat has it's own separate entrance and there are no communal areas, the first floor flat is less than 4.5m from the ground. I'm looking to rent out all three flats on completion and just want some advice on fire doors for the upstairs flat. The architect showed lots of fire doors upstairs but I think this was because there wasn't a door on the kitchen when he did the plans. There is now a standard door on the kitchen, would we still need fire door…
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my builder is going to fit a fire door between the garage and house, I have registered with the local authority, but am unsure if there are any rules about hanging the door I would like it to be opening from the garage to the house, awaiting local authority to call back.
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do internal doors in a office need to be full fire doors with smoke seals or intumescent strips ?
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Have a FD30 Fire Door, from 1990. Door has been upgraded with Overhead Closer and new Fire rated hinges. Originally he door had a perko chain. Can I leave that in place? Or is it required that it is removed? If it needs to be removed what would I use to fill the hole left in the door? Would a Fire Stop putty be OK, and painted ?
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See photo below of double doors on an escape route. What products could I use to reduce the frame side gaps? I have seen those rubber edgings that are used but don’t know the technical term for these if anyone could point me in the right direction if these are fire safety products? Also the gaps at the top for these types of doors anything that I will need to install for these?
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What’s your opinions on blade vs brush cold smoke seals? Most doors I’ve inspected, the blade seals always seem to fair worse over time. They seem fair less robust than brush seals. Is there any benefit for a blade seal?
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Hi all, I’ll give you a brief background info on me. Carpenter for over 20 years and locksmith for 12 years. Past 2 years I’ve started advertising in fitting fire doors as there didn’t seem to be anyone advertising such a service local to me. I’ve now been asked the following... “We need a single swing-both-ways fire door with a glass panel for a new opening from the commercial kitchen to the bar area and ideally the door frame too. The opening is currently 900 x 1900 mm “ I seem to remember a building inspector years ago saying these hinges are no longer with in regs due to the gaps and or leading edges leave the door exposed / vene…
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Hi. I have a 2 storey house which has double doors between the living room and the stairwell, which leads to the final exit. One door has a plain edge, the other has an intumescent strip with a smoke seal. This seal makes it quite difficult to close the door and it invariably makes a loud noise when closing. If I remove the smoke seal, the gap between the doors is 4mm. Is this safe or should I leave the seal in place?
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Hi A fire door closer needs to be able to latch the door from any angle. Does this include the smallest angle - ie when the latch rests against the strike plate. On inspections I check that our firedoors close from wide range of angles but not this small an angle. Thanks for any replies - I have not found an answer so far by searching the web.
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I am hoping for some advice. Following our Fire Risk Assessment on the communal area of our flats we have been asked to check Flat Front doors to make sure they are FD30 compliant. The assessor unfortunately did not take a look at the doors as no residents were in at the time. The flats conversion on the Victorian property was carried out in 1993. The doors are heavy and have a self closing chain..... photos attached. But I cannot find a door identification badge - probably due to the age and paint work. Is it possible to tell just from the structure (thickness and fact they are self closing?) We do not want to have doors replaced for no reason Many th…
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Hello, I have a small office which has 3 rooms downstairs connected via a corridor and one room upstairs. There are two fire exit doors downstairs, on off the main corridor, and another out of one of the rooms. You then walk through a normal internal door half way up the stairs into a single meeting room upstairs. The top meeting room has a fire exit which leads directly outside and not used by anyone else. (floor plan attached). My question is do I need a firedoor/s on either: the stairs (as upstairs has it's own fire exit already) or any of the office doors down stairs? 4 people work in this office on a regular basis but I employ a couple more people on s…
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Hi, I wonder if anyone could help. I have a small office, with 4 people regularly working in this office. We do employ a couple more people on site but they do not have a desk in the office, and occasionally come in for a chat. We do have a meeting room upstairs that can seat up to 10 people. I have attached the floor plan. I am being told every door needs to be a fire door. The 4 office desks are split between room 1 & 2. There is an internal door between the downstairs and upstairs. However, there is a separate fire exit upstairs which leads directly outside and not used by anyone else. As there are 2 fire exit points downstairs and one up stairs a…
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