Fire Doors and Accessories
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We are planning to convert our garage. Currently we have a fire door into the garage as it’s attached to the side of our house and can be accessed through the kitchen. However, we plan to convert the garage into an office. Does this mean we will not need it to be a fire door anymore as it will no longer be a garage but will be a habitable space as part of the home?
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Hello everyone. I'm struggling with reducing the gaps under our fire doors and would really like some advice on what we can do to make us compliant. The building I'm responsible for is a 19th Century Manor house and with old buildings the floors are not flat and often slope. We have one door for example that has a gap of 10mm one side & 30mm, however as the floor slopes, if I added a strip to the door it would prevent the door from fully opening as it would get caught on the floor. Has anyone had experience with old buildings & come suggest a solution for the above?
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Hi all, We have just ad a motorised opening FD30S fire door. It has a threshold drop down seal fitted. However, the gap at one corner is approximately 4mm and the corner it reaches 10mm+ Should the drop down seal just brush along the carpet? Thank you all
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Hi all, hoping to have finally found the place to answer my question :) I have a garage which is part of the house (IE under other rooms) . I want to insulate the single skin metal door, as it gets extremely cold in there and we use it regularly. So, a couple of questions if anyone can help: 1) Does this garage door insulation actually need to be fireproof if there is already a fire door between the garage and the house?2) Assuming it does, does anyone know of any cost effective Class 0 or class 1 insulation which would be suitable? The only thing i've seen which fits the bill is superfoil SNFC, but it only comes in 8M rolls , might be too thick, and has …
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Hello I own and live in the ground floor flat in an Edwardian conversion on a long lease (200 years plus) there are 2 flats upstairs. I have a fire door as my flat door. The shared hallway and stairs will need to be used for the upstairs flats to go to the street past my flat. The mid floor landing and the ground floor has coat pegs on the wall and neatly stored shoe racks which don't obstruct the access. One flat says it does. Lease doesn't say anything beyond keeping it tidy and in good condition which it is. We now have the RTM from December so assuming the buildings insurance will detail keeping a hallway clear but as things are neatly stored away and there is a…
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Evening all, looking for a bit of advice if possible. I am fairly new to carrying out Fire Door Inspections and have came across a situation today where in a care home there are various nominal corridor doors with side panels fitted with georgian wired glass installed. The only markings they have are BS6206 B/F which I understand is only showing its Impact rating? There are no fire rating etchings on the glass. Would these be passed as long no damage to the glass?
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Hi there, Very sorry if this has been covered before, couldn't find anything in the search. Could anyone give a definite answer on an issue I'm currently facing please? My wife and I have recently moved into a new build, 4 bedroom, 3 storey home. We had a 'professional snagging company' in to survey the house given the shoddy workmanship on our last new home. In this report they picked up that the intumescent seals were missing from all required door frames and reported that it must be recitifed ASAP. We have FD30 doors and hinges fitted throughout the house but after speaking to the manufacturer of the doors (Jeld-Wen) they advised me that the doors are on…
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Acoustic door guards - can they be fitted on doors opening onto stairwells in sheltered housing
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Hey, does anyone have any advice about updating oak doors to fire doors?
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Evening all, We are currently installing some new fire door sets and carrying out fire door remidals on a live scheme. While carrying out remidal work to the glazing / beading overhauls. We found that the glazing had been done after install and a router has been used on the corners leaving small circular gaps. What would be the appropriate way to close this off?? 1. Intumescent Sealant 2. Blue 60 foam 3. Envirograph FR filler Should the fire consultant not offer guidance on the best practice in this instance as we have recommended to change the whole door??? Thankyou Matt
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I am working in an old listed building, previously used as a GP surgery, that is now being renovated into an office building. The building has two floors and a basement. There are three fire exits on the ground floor and an external wooden staircase from the first floor. As the building is listed the council are requesting to keep the internal doors as they are, however I feel FD30(S) fire doors should be considered. However, I cannot find any legislation that provides a detailed explanation of when and where fire doors are required. The building is medium sized with 4 offices on the ground floor and four offices and a kitchen on the first floor. It seems excessive to req…
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Afternoon My client has asked for a fire door survey to be completed the following criteria and I believe this would be easier using a proprietary software To be able to categorise each door into one of the following for budgetary purposes Life Cycle Repair Malicious Damage Maintenance Ability to add budgetary costs to each door or repair The software creates a database allowing all of the 1-3 criteria above to be reviewed, including the budgetary costs The ability to add photographs and expand them if possible A monthly cost would be preferred Does anyone use any software like this currently, as I have looked at a fe…
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I have been asked to quote to replace existing Dorma floor springs ( which are not fire rated) fitted to double cross corridor FD 30 & 60 Sapele faced polished doors all with vision panels to a College in Birmingham after a regulation visit by a Fire Inspector He has suggested we fit 3no 100mm fire hinges to the doors Our problem is the swing doors open both ways and the edges of the doors have been curved in manufacture to allow the doors to swing freely, so we cannot fit standard fire hinges without cutting off the curved edges on the hanging side to both doors. We could fit a 15mm hardwood strip to the hanging side & fit the required fire hinges.…
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Hi, What is the maximum gap legally allowed between the wall and the fire door frame? A few of us leaseholders went collectively to get our front doors replaced and mine was done yesterday. I was reluctant at first due to the reduction in width of the new door compared to my previous door but I was convinced that there would be 1-2 cms max gap. But when the frame was installed yesterday I was shocked to find the gap of approx 2 inches on one side and more than 1 inch on the other sides. The gap has been filled with fire retardant foam. I also noticed that the door frame is actually more than 12mm narrower than what was mentioned in the final speci…
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Can you confirm if it is illegal/what the regulations are concerining using fire extinguishers as door wedges. Currently a door leading into the ladies toilets is propped open like this, and is a pet hate of mine! Thanks
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I bought a new built flat . The utility where washer and dryer are placed hsve fire doors but they don’t close . Also there is no ventilation . How do I know is complying wit building regulations ?
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Good evening, Can anybody recommend where a hard copy of the updated doc B 2022 can be found, I am struggling at the moment. Also any events or courses to educate further that people could recommend for fire doors in general. Matt
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Hi team, a bit of advice please. I have a number of fire doors on my site which are all listed on my fire diary. As one of the doors is the front door of a residents premises we have been requested to provide a Fire Door Inspection certificate. Looking at the The Regulatory Reform (Fire Safety) Order 2005 its states that the the inspection can be conducted by a competent person. Having completed by GradIOSH including completion of the NVQ Lv3 Fire Safety I feel this satisfies competent?? Looking at the training objectives of the fire door inspectors course, this is all information I am well versed with, therefore should be able to sign the door off with confidence - …
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Good evening all...I have recently been to look at some fire door remidals and would wish to put my mind at ease regarding repair works. Am I correct in thinking that if there is no damage to the door and only damage to the Vveneer a repair is acceptable as this has no effect on the performance of the doorset. Thanks in advance.
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Hi there, I'm currently working on a project in West London where we are adding an additional story to a house by converting the loft space into habitable space. This off course means also changing all doors to 30min fire doors. On the ground floor however there is a beautiful original timber door (currently external door, but with kitche side return extension it is going to be internal) that my clients would love to keep. It it about 70% timber and 30% glass. Is there any way of upgrading this door to be 30min fire proof? Many many thanks,
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Note sure if this is the right part of the forum would appreciate some views. My organisation is about to upgrade electronic access control systems to a newer model and the matter of BS EN 13637 compliance has arisen. We have traditionally ensured BS EN 179 and BS EN 1125 are met and plan to continue deploying compliant mechanical escape systems such as break glass units, request to exit buttons, panic bars and fail safe mode on all internal doors in the event of a fire alarm activation. Our supplier is now trying to recommend we install electronic escape systems such as as ePED which can allow time delay on some of these doors. The conundrum is that…
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Hi all, is anyone a member of the FDIS? I have now completed the FDIS Diploma and FDIS Transition module, however one of the videos explains that it is a requirement of becoming FDIS certified is to enter all fire door inspection reports on to their system within 5 days of inspection, and also to use their inspection app, is this correct or did I misunderstand? I am asking as many of our clients require us to sign Non-disclosure agreements prior to any inspections and obviously this creats a problem. We have tried to contact the FDIS by phone and email for about 2 weeks now, but it seems unless it's about a payment they are simply not interested, will not r…
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When building a sub frame around a fire door I know the guidance states solid wood should be used. Is it acceptable to use ply wood? It is spanning the width of the wall and is positioned side on so you can see it’s layers. my concern is whether the layers would break down too quickly in a fire and would be point of failure. This is around fd30 and fd60 door sets.
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Hi there could I have some advise please in regards to an FD30 fire door fitted on a busy corridor. Is it ok to have a pull handle (300mm stainless steel bow handle) which bolts right through the door the bolt is counter sunk into the timber and then covered with a stainless steel push plate. I thought this would compromise the integrity of the door, I thought the pull handle should be screwed to the surface of the fire door with a rose. Any advise would be gratefully appreciated.
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