Fire Doors and Accessories

Hi everyone, I have a takeaway on left with the blue sign , that can just be visible, staff are sleeping above shop to the right with the yellow livery. Behind in the trees there is a flat with staff sleeping. I believe it is separated from the takeaway but above the yellow shop. the escape route seems to have wood and plastic sheeting as a weather shield , leading to the 2 x white doors to the street. other than the separation between use cases , does this come under the housing act as I can’t see where the FSO would come into play ? any help would be much appreciated, Rob

We have just been told to install a FD30S fire door that was already on site. I asked to see the compartmentation drawings and it shows that the door should in fact be a FD60S. The client just wants us to fit it but I’m not going to. Is there any information I can get to show the client that’s not the right thing to do. I have looked at approved document B but can’t find anything that highlights this.

Hi. Advice needed please. New intumescent strips fitted recently are not sticking. Can I use an adhesive? If so can anyone recommend one? Thanks in advance.

Hi all, I’m one of the directors of the RMO of a block of 32 residential flats which was built seven years ago. Following the new fire safety guidelines for blocks over 11 m, we had our first door fire safety inspection last year. Unfortunately, all doors failed the inspection. 72 communal doors (mostly riser cupboards) need replacement ans they are not compliant, annd all 32 front doors require remidial work to close existing gaps. I have attached examples of the report for both types of doors Replacing and fixing such a vast number of doors would obviously put a massive financial burden on the leaseholders of the block, so we are trying to establish wh…

Hi, I've found this website www.burglarybusters.ie and they claim to have doors that are more secure and still compliant with fire safety regulations. Do you know if these are really admissible or it's just them adjusting their marketing to what's required? Thank you

Could you please tell me if there is a maximum gap size between the fire door and frame after which the intumescent seal will not work. I have been told by a carpenter that this is 3 mm. Thank you

Hi, In our office there is an older FD60 door which has no intumescent around the glazing. Should these be upgraded or will they be okay as this was allowed back when they were installed. Also the frame is MDF is this allowed or is a new frame needed. We have no information on these doors.

I was thinking of getting into fire door installation work. Did a good course covering the topic of installation. However I’ve since learned from a friend who is in the business of installation work that you really need a workshop to adapt the doors and frames as they will never fit existing openings when doing replacement work. I found this to be a real let down as I naively thought I could be mobile fitting door sets on the road. Any feedback/advice greatly appreciated, thanks.

We have double fire doors at the entrance and into a communal lounge within our retirement complex, all residences are owner occupier's and the property is 7 years old, at present we have intumescent seals around both doors this being the hinge side and the top, but, not where the two doors meet should there be.???? Could you also help me with a problem we have within our complex we have 45 apartments all with FD30 JELD-WEN doors fitted, as you probably well know we will eventually start having periodical inspections of our doors, but many no longer have the certifire labels attached it is only stuck on to the top of the door and over time has been lost, if it ever …

Hello all I am currently training to be a fire door inspector, I went out to a hospital yesterday and conducted a mock survey. The client provided me with evidence of the doors in question. the Certifire report was valid until 2004, but the doors did not meet todays standards, i.e Georgian wire glass and no CE marking on the ironmongery. Are these doors still compliant because they was built to the required test report at the time Regards Doodle

I'm looking for a bit of help on some locks we have come across on flat entrance doors and riser doors. We see quite a few locks similar to the one in the picture. Some have correct BS standard markings on and others don't. However, on all doors it is very easy to see through the lock to the other side of the door. Often the cutting around the keyhole is oversized and not filled with any kind of intumescent protection. My concern is that this type of lock could let smoke/flames through very easily. Are these locks suitable? And what repairs should be done? I'm hoping some of you might be able to help me. Thanks.

Hi I currently work for a number of school establishments as a contractor and have been asked to look into providing services for fire door inspections could anybody give me some advice on which courses would be appropriate and legally cover me to do so as there are many online varying in length and price? I would like to know which of these is recommended and recognised? many thanks Chris

After any advice from the forum 🤞 We have many external front entrance FD30 doors to replace that have have services passing through the existing glazed fan lights. The client will not relocate any services and our door supplier only has testing under UKCA for a full width fan light section. There is no fire consultant or building control involved so at a loss at the moment. I am struggling to find a solution that would allow us to create a tested partition detail and certify the door set alongside. I have spoken with Promat but they need steel section installing to separate from the door set which is a huge task and additonal cost to the project. Could any…

Installing new fire doors in my property. Previous old doors had 25mmx25mm door stop around the frame. I saw something that they only need to be 12mm deep (softwood density 510kg/m3). Does anyone have a link to where I can get this thinner door stop wood of appropriate standard?

We have been advised by a fire door contractor to fit a FrameFit – Fire Door Upgrades to our fire doors to help reduce the operating gaps. These look too good to be true, so I am wondering if any of you fire door inspectors have a) come across these and b) would accept them if inspecting a door? Previous door inspections have suggested removing the frames and packing them out to reduce the operating gaps, which is obviously a lot more work, so if the Framefit devices are acceptable, we would obviously be interested in these. But we don't want to waste time and money if the Framefit is not compliant! Any thoughts / advice would be appreciated.

Hi, our block of flats were built in the 1980’s and have letterbox’s in the door. We have no information on these doors so I just wanted to know would we need the doors replaced as I heard unless the manufacturer says you can, fire doors cannot be drilled through. As we have no evidence how can we be sure these doors will perform in a fire?

Hi, I’m looking at a report on some fire doors and it says “ relocate hinges to 1 N leaf to adjust margins” can anyone tell me what 1 N leaf means please ? thanks Ben

Hi, I was hoping to get some advise before taking on a job. An old Victorian house based in east London needs to upgrade their doors to FD30 in line with regulations. The issue I have is that the existing frames are solid hardwood, architraves are original all sealed which is great, but due to subsidence the heads are very wonky. My question is, to avoid ripping out the original frames and opening a can of worms as the house is so old. Can I fit hardwood to the head of the frames to make them level (so the head of the fire door blanks remain untouched). I can then cut the doors from the bottom as the blanks will allow me to cut to the smaller heights? Any advis…

If a fire door is upgraded or has had repairs made to it should a certificate be issued by the contractor. What if the door has no label on it and the door cannot be traceable? How can you be sure that a door will perform in the event of a fire with repairs made.

Hi everyone, I'm reading some conflicting information on how often Flat entrance Fire doors (not communal areas, lobby doors etc.) need to be inspected and the level of inspection/FRA required. The blocks that I'm asking for are all under 11m and meet all the criteria for the guidance that applies to "small blocks of flats". The articles/sites that I'm getting the info from are non-commercial and government sites, some seem to be saying that beyond an initial inspection, inside and out( gaps, seals, hinges, closer, intumescents etc) to establish that they comply with regs all that is required from that point is an external inspection to make sure it's still a good fit wit…

Is it permissible to install fire and smoke seals into the edge of a suitable door stop when the edge gaps of existing fire doors are 4mm or above. This is on fire risers and cupboards.

My mother in law lives in a private flat along with about 50 other flats. I'm joint owner of the flat although I don't live there (its predominantly for retired residents). The flats were built in 1989 and all have their original front doors leading into a communal hallway. The property management company have written to all residents and informed them that they must replace their existing front doors with FD 30 standard front doors at the owners expense. Are they allowed to mandate the fitment of FD 30 doors in an existing building? Thanks in advance.

Can 15mm intumescent seals be installed on a standard size FD30 fire door blank. The label on on the top of the door is CF 807 but when I looked at this it’s suggests 10mm seals. The certificate only mentions maximum sizes so does that mean any configuration on the certificate can be used?

Hi there, I'm new here and I've been reading a few of the topics posted here about reducing gaps. I have a front door to the flat that has 4mm gap on the hinge side and 6mm gap on the closing side. I wanted to ask if surface mounted fire and smoke seal can be used to close the gap on the closing side to less than 4mm? Thank you.

I am currently carrying out my PhD in security device effectiveness. One security device I am analysisng is security chains.I am unsure if if I can ethically recommend security chains as an effective measure against burglary victimisation if there is a potential risk to having one fitted with regards to fire safety. Is there any offical guidance from the fire service (preferably UK) about whether security chains (on the inside of a front/back door) pose a potential risk when trying to esacpe from a fire?