Fire Doors and Accessories

What seals do electrical riser cupboard do need smoke and fire or just smoke thanks

I’m currently in the process of renovating my home. It is a 3 bedroom semi detached house and is ‘back to brick’ as such. It’s having a complete electrical rewire, new heating system and smoke alarms will be in all rooms, apart from the main bathroom and loft conversion en-suite. A LD1 or LD2 system from what I’ve looked at on the web? On the building inspectors last visit she has sent me the site inspection report. She has stated in comments; Discussed mains operated Interlinked smoke detection to be installed in all habitable rooms at all levels within the circulation areas. Note that this is under the old regulations before changes to fire doors. Details re…

Hi Guys, my daughter has just bought her first apartment. There was a fire door inspection done a couple of years ago but the previous occupant had not done the advised work. We have now carried out most of the work, fitted a new fire door with pads and new fire cert fittings and replace the intrumescent seals that are rebated in the frame. We have one issue left. The door frame left to right is slightly greater in one small area (approx 8") of the required 2-4mm gap. It is 5mm We haven't planed the door left to right. So we have the 2-4mm gap hinge side & top and most the latch side. The gap is simply larger than the unplaned door width + 4mm +4mm. …

Hi Wondering if anyone can help me with where I stand on leading edges. I use a wide variety of fire doors and I'm constantly reading global assessments daily for my work. But one thing that is rarely covered is "Can I but a bevel on the leading edge on a fire door to aid the closing?". Nearly all doors need the back edge of the stile on the closing side beveling so that it doesn't hit the frame and gives some clearance. Some global assessments allow a 2.5deg bevel (but still refer you to the max gaps section) and others don't mention anything. Thoughts?

Hello! I'm planning to renovate my apartment and as a part of said renovation, I am looking to replace my existing 23 year old FD30S fire doors. The problem I have is that I wish to install new floor-to-ceiling door (leaf dimensions will be approximately 2400mm x 900mm; frame thickness will be 100mm) with bespoke oak veneer and handles (see attached photo for an examples, but ignore handles). The frames also need to be quite simple (again, see attached photo). I would like to know how this can be achieved, if at all! I am happy to purchase fire door frames and leaves (blanks or without finish), intumescent strips as well as fire rated hinges et cetera. I al…

Hi all We have many door sets that have been identified on an inspection as needing to be replaced. We have been quoted £1500 inc vat for fd30 doorset including closer, ironmongery, stops and architrave. Does this sound reasonable? They have FDIS accreditation

I've been going through the Fire Safety Survey taken out on our company premises last month and I was looking for some clarity on the legal requirements/regulations surrounding fire doors. Is it a legal requirement to install fire doors where a survey has requested? We are in quite an old building with a warehouse/depot downstairs and new offices upstairs (with around 25-30 employees upstairs) and they flagged one door into an archive room and then all the electrical cupboards downstairs. I understand the need for fire doors on electrical cupboards but the door into the archive room is not on an escape route so I don't know whether it is necessary? If any…

Hi Does anyone have experience of dealing with doors like these? set back in a 200mm surround We'd like to change for certified doors and add an exterior frame. I can't find any example of this - is it a viable idea. New door will be rebated and lined with fire brush etc and the frame will go in the surround close to the door covering part of the door. We need about 120 so can be made to measure.

Hi, Could someone please advise me of best practice with the repair to some fire doors. I’m an accredited third party installer and have been sent a job to replace some lipping. The doors look to be leaderflush as the hinges are labelled but no actual label on the door set. Someone has cut the groove for the seals but have over recessed them and done a poor job. They are double doors but they have cut seals opposite each other on both leaves. As I have no information/ test evidence I’m reluctant to replace lipping and install x2 seals opposite each other. Would a new door set be required?

The maximum gap between fire door and frame is specified in BS 8214 as 4mm. A bigger gap may be acceptable if supported by a fire performance test. Q. Has the maximum gap always been 4mm or was it bigger in previous recognised guidance?

Hi, I normally use D4 or PVA to attach lipping to a FD30. To spead up the prosess can I use glue then nail gun it instead of using clamps?

Hi what is the maximum linear gap for a steel doorset? I have just come across a door set that has no information but at the head of the door the sealant is 35mm wide on a block wall.Would this be compliant?

What are the requirements for door stops (part of the frame-usually nailed to the lining of the door) in FD30 doors? Assuming adequate intumescent seals are fitted into doors/linings does the door stop need to be of a certain thickness? I seem to get different information from my suppliers and a web research hasn’t made me any wiser

Hi all, Hoping for some thoughts and advice on the above, fitting fd30s flat entrance doors. We're trying to make sure we've got the maximum amount of flexibility when it comes to fitting the doors and notice that some doors we're looking at are stating max trim on edges of 3mm where others are giving 10 mm as the max. I'm assuming that it's dependent on the thickness of the manufacturers hardwood lipping? This leads me to my next question, I've seen an fd30 door that's advertised as with or without lipping!! guessing that the without lipping option leaves you to add it yourself but don't see how that can have a certificate. Is it possible to fit a door without lippi…

Hi, I have been given advice by many people regarding repairing full depth penetration holes in fire doors and every answer is different, can we clear this up please? so my question is what is the maximum size hole you can repair in a door before a replacement is advised and how should the repair be performed, many thanks

My landlord has just had a new front door - fire door fitted - it opens onto a communal area. The label on the door says it is an FD30 door - see image. A Council bod, says the label can be replaced and state it is an FD30S door, I'm not so sure, but seek advice. The gap at the bottom of the door is more than 10mm. I opened the door, placed a gap wedge on the carpet and let the door go and it went clean over it. I measured the gap and it was 14mm, at the bottom of the door, so I think the chippie - not a proper fire door installer - who put the door in did a bad job. Also in places around the door there a gaps more than 4mm, .using the gap wedge to check. The door…

I am working on a large industrial building Which has more than a 100 fire doors; parts of the building are over 150 years old I have been asked to upgrade the fire doors ,many will need new doors sets and others will require retro fit upgrades ,the problem I have is that many of the doors have large gaps under them, some up to 25 mm this is to accommodate the uneven slope of the floors so that the doors will open . I note that there are now drop down threshold seals but they seem only to accommodate gaps up to a 14mm I could cock the hinges to help raise some of the door but I doubt this would be sufficient . Because many of the routes are used…

We are opening a children’s care home. we have fire doors fitted with intumescent smoke strips. A couple of the doors don’t fully close with the friction or because of the room vacuum. eg if a window is open they will close. I’m sure we can adjust things but my question is… is it satisfactory, regarding regs, if we used the flat fire intumescent strips rather than brush. I know, the brush ones block out smoke but I just want the doors to close and be compliant and need to know if either type of strip are sufficient.

Can you fit a dropseal directly on to vinyl flooring and carpet tiles as long as within the correct gaps?

Fire Hinges. Do they need to be marked grade 13 or is FD30 CE marked hinges acceptable?

Hi I've recently done a fire door course (online) and wanted to clarify a couple of points if possible: 1) The intumescent strips if damaged must be replaced with a full set and cannot be mixed, so I have a door where someone has replaced the strips but they are not 1 piece, they were obviously short and there is a join, is that ok? 2) The gap between door hinge, top, bottom and opening side must be 3-4mm, and the gap between the opening leaf on a double door requires a smoke seal but the course just states the gap between leafs are to be uniformed and no gaps in the seals, is there a maximum gap for this? Lastly is is possible for intumescent s…

Hello Safelincs Forum Community, I recently had a single Perko R2 door closer installed on the fire door of my residence. I was informed by the installer that this setup is compliant with UK fire safety regulations. However, to ensure I am fully up to date and compliant, I'd like to seek advice from the experts here. Does a single Perko R2 door closer meet the necessary compliance standards for residential fire doors in the UK? Are there specific installation guidelines or certifications for the Perko R2 that I should be aware of to ensure optimal performance and safety? Thank you for your assistance, and I look forward to your expert guidance! …

Hi, do we have any specific guidance regarding opposing intumescent seals in door frames and door leafs (nominal doors) as far as I am aware this is fail and requires replacement. Also with regard to opposing seals in meeting edges on a single acting double door set, some door manufacturers allow opposing seals according to the certification, but I am wondering about nominal doors

If a final exit door in a public area has a push bad engraved 'push', does it still need a 'push pad to open' sign? I initially would've thought not, but thinking about hours of darkness or during emergency lighting cover, this probably wouldn't be visible/clear. Do we also need 'fire exit, keep clear' signs on the back of these doors if it's all clear glass?

Looking for info on metal door sets, mainly about the gaps, ADB Appendix G: Documents referred to lists the Door and Shutter Manufacturers’ Association Code of Practice for Fire Resisting Metal Doorsets [2010], when we look this up it says Withdrawn, cited in regs https://www.thenbs.com/PublicationIndex/documents/details?Pub=DHF&DocId=296322 Any other useful documents available for metal door sets? Thanks