Fire Doors and Accessories

We live about a 3 bed flat that currently has students living in. Since they moved in we have had issues with hearing each of their firedoors shutting. I contacted their letting agents who came out and adjusted the fire doors to make them close softer. However, this has not helped and the noise is still persistent. I have fed this back to the letting agents however they have stated there's nothing else they can do, the doors need to shut to meet regulations. Is there anything else I can suggest to the letting agents to prevent or decrease this noise? I've looked at hush pads on Amazon but fear that they would say this would not meet fire regs? Any help would …

Hi we have recently been replacing existing fire doors to meet regs. We have been keeping to the 3mm gaps however, the doors are not self closing as a result of the smoke strips. The strips we use are from Howdens - does anyone else have the same issue? Perhaps there is another supplier out there that have softer bristles We also noticed that a previous contractor had cut the strips in deeper to overcome this issue but we feel this is not the solution as it was clear the router bit used was not the ones specifically designed for intumescent strips not to mention how far away the intumescent was from the frame.

Good afternoon , a recent fire door survey of new doors failed them because the contractor fitted internal door closure into doors , which I will have to replaced but wanted advice if the frames could be saved / spliced in as they don't have seals around the doors would have the seals on them. please see photos

Hi, I am looking for guidance on the type of packer that can be used behind frame fixings for FD30 doors. I read that plastic packers can be used on FD30's. just not FD60's - is that correct ? Can plastic packers be used ?, if an appropriate 10mm intumiscent mastic bead is run round the gap between frame and supporting construction, assuming gaps on average between are 5-10mm, packers chiselled back where necessary to allow the depth of a 10mm mastic bead, an architrave placed on top. I do not yet own a copy of "BS 8214:2016 Timber based fire door assemblies Code of practice", but will place an order shortly (seems curious a hard copy version is no more cost…

We bought a leasehold flat in May 2022. Following a recent inspection of our front door (30-minute fire door), our management company said it's not compliant with the fire regulations as it has gaps greater than 4mm—in some cases 6 or 8mm—and that the door needs to be 'adjusted' (not possible—gaps are too big) or replaced. We have two years to report any defects, but the company we bought our flat from says that the door was compliant when we bought it but isn't now following legislation changes, so our problem to fix, not theirs. Everything I have read says a fire door should have a 2-4mm gap around it and that doesn't appear to have changed in the recent legis…

I am the leaseholder of a flat in a “higher risk” building (over 18m). After a recent inspection (as mandated by the building safety act) I received a report from the managing agent of the building that my door needs to be replaced and I am responsible. I have checked my lease and I am indeed financially responsible to replace it. I want to get this done as soon as possible so I can sell my flat without worrying about the door being raised as an issue during the sale. But the managing agent and the lease advice service state I need building control approval to replace my door - see https://www.lease-advice.org/faq/i-own-the-front-door-to-my-f…

Hi all, We have some communal risers which contain water meters along with isolation valves. There is also a sprinkler isolation valve there as well. The current locks is a eurocylinder type with key on the external side and thumb turn on the internal side. There is literally no way to lock yourself in the cupboard (maybe 200mm depth with various things poking out) unless you're a small child and someone deliberately locks you in, so I'm not sure how much of a requirement the thumb turn really is. We were told that if the fire brigade attended they may need to break into the riser to deal with the sprinkler system and/or the get to the isolation valve(s). T…

Hi there, I have recently had an experience with a new fire door installation to my flat and I wondered if anybody who works in this area or has knowledge of this might be able to share their thoughts on the matter? I live in a converted building of studio flats. My managing agents said that we all needed new flat doors as they were not up to fire regulations (I had long debates with them about this before finally caving in to agreeing to have the door completely replaced but that is another story). So I had to pay almost 1.5k to have a new door put in. This seemed very excessive, but anyway that’s also another story and not really the point of this post. …

We are looking for a door/frame between our garage and utility for our newbuild energy efficient home. It has to be a security fire door, airtight, thermally broken with low U values. Looking for recommendation of any products which would fulfill the above needs. Thank you very much

Good Afternoon We have identified that there are no intumescent or cold smoke seals on the meeting edge of the doors (I can only assume that perhaps one of the door leafs has been replaced at some point by the previous occupiers), We have been advised that the whole door needs to be replaced, is this correct, or can smoke/intumescent smoke seals be added to the existing doors? Thanks

My house is 300 years old with a tiled roof. The old method of stopping the draft entering between the tile layers use to be cement but this drops out. What fire-resistant safe material can I use to pin onto the rafters in the roof loft space to keep drafts out.

I live in a block of four flats with two on the ground floor and two upstairs. The top floor flats share an entrance and a small communal area and have a fire door for their flat's entrance. My flat is on the ground floor and has it's own private entrance door that opens up to the street. I would like to replace my wooden front door (not a fire door) with a composite door but the managing agent says it has to be a fire door with 60 minutes fire resistance. I can understand that for the flats upstairs as they share an entrance and their front doors open up to a small communal area. I don't understand why I need a fire door though. I've checked my lease and it says nothing …

Have to remove door closer as fitted to the wrong side of the fire door and refit to correct side this leaves 6 screw holes on the other side of the door how does this effect the fire integrity of the door? Can they be filled and the door repainted or polished?

I don't come across this type of closer too often, but what are their pros and cons and do they pass UK certification for a FD30 door-set?

BC have asked for 60min fire doors to a cupboard that houses the sub distribution boards for a 70 seater ground floor restaurant. The boards are within the main body of the restaurant, not on a protected escape route, nor are they at the main intake position. Even if they were, I can see no valid reason for such a requirement. I see this as a BC officer over stepping his remit. Happening a lot at the moment. The thing is, clients seem to be so deferential to BC that they fail to ask for the source of demands made by officers on site. I have asked the officer to confirm by email, in other words commit to writing his demand out and identifying the regulatory source.…

Good evening, I don't know if anyone can help. My daughter was at work closing up following a group session and she was making sure all doors were shut. There was an open fire door so she released the door stop at the bottom and the door started to close then stuck. She gave it a gentle push and it slammed. The hinge box came away from the door and a couple of screws fell out. This caused the hinge to bend up. She is only small 7 1/2 stone and short. She is now subjected to a disciplinary and threatened with gross misconduct. Does anyone know if this is something that happens with doors easily. They wont provide us with evidence. She has taken this so ba…

Hi I have been advised to replace 3 doors in a 2 bedroom 2 story cottage project which is undergoing some refurbishment for holiday letting. Existing doors are a recent install, immaculately fitted to the frames etc and otherwise perfect but are not fire rated. Been advised I need to replace these with a nominal fire door. Do the door handles also have to be replaced? Do I also have to rip out the existing frames? Thanks

Hi, Would I have to change over a perfectly good panic bar on an emergency exit because it has no CE/UKCA markings on? It had been installed many years ago (maybe 90’s). I read somewhere that they should have the markings on.

Hello All, We live in a dormer bungalow built in the 1950s and need to replace our upstair bedroom doors and was considering fire doors with smoke and fire strip but im starting to wonder if this is necessary. They will be bedroom doors for us and our 2 young children 6 and 8. Are they worth it with a smoke and fire seal for a residential 2 storey bungalow building? Kind Regards, Alex

Hello all. I am a resident in a development consisting of just under a thousand properties with the majority being flats. Firstport (managing agents) have just done their first inspection and a huge amount of flats have failed their front door fire checks. All with the same issue of the gaps being too big. Most of these doors are either out of alignment or jamming against the frames and not closing properly. From what I can see, the whole area has had huge settlement issues and caused these problems. Internal doors are also catching or not closing fully at all, cracks down walls and above door frames and door frames themselves very visibly not square. Firstport…

When a fire door has been fitted occasionally they do not close exactly flush to the door stop. May be warped Twisted Poorly fitted Water damage Structural movement And other possibilities. I know its 2-4mm max between leaf and. Frame but What is the maximum acceptable gap size between the header and the latching side of the door leaf? Cheers

Hi, am I able to put a new leaf in an old frame? The doorset at the moment has b m Trada plugs on doors and frame but company is no longer trading. If I got another leaf from a b m Trada company would this be acceptable?

Hi all, I'm having a bit of a nightmare trying to find a FD30S fire door set with the following locking style where the lock is a multipoint locking mechanism but is only key operated from the outside, thumbturn from the inside, and no lever. Is this possible? Not a single online fire door configurator seems to have this. Everyone that I call, including Safelincs, suggests that the door needs to have a lever or I must have a nightlatch and a mortice deadlock but I can't find any building regs that say this is a requirement. As far as I understand, a nightlatch is just a convenience for use with a deadlock. Others have said that the thumbturn must be at a certai…

Hi Can you explain the difference between a notional and a nominal fire door please? There seem to be conflicting definitions on the internet. If you have a reliable source for this information as well, that would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

Fire Door Fitter Here. We are currently fitting doors with twin fin intumescent strips pre installed. We are experiencing operation issues after install that the door is too difficult to open and close due to the friction that the two rubber strips create when trying to use the doors, was hoping another fitter might have a potential fix. Have been discussing with manufacturer however they are not keen on changing to brushed strips.