Fire Doors and Accessories

I have been asked by a school 'can 10mm intumescent strips be used or do they have to be 15mm'. They have not mentioned the type and function of door, however assuming that the doors are single action and 30 min or 60 min fire resisting doors what would be the minimum dimensions? Thanks for your help, Regards

Block of flats (PB) in 1990. 3 floors with one staircase and front and rear exits to ether car park or street. (1 mtr from bottom of stairs) On ground and first floor only there are corridors no more than 8 mtrs long containing 4 flats. Each corridor has a set of double doors from new. These doors are solid 44mm Windsor style doors with Georgian wired glass as from new. All frames have intumescent seals and one door has the same along one edge. All in good condition. Hinges were changed to G13 Fire Rated hinges 2 years ago , after a FRA. All flat doors have certified FD30 doors with overhead closers, G13 Fire rated hinges, and seals and conform to all…

We have recently purchased a property which we intend to renovate and rent. It is currently fitted with interior fire doors which we will replace but wondered whether you need to use special paint and door furniture on fire doors? Thanks

I understand it a latch bolt must overcome the strike plate, stay in position (positive latching) and opened manually from the inside with a lever/handle and outside with a key or code etc. My concern is that the roller bolt does not automatically lock into position and can move freely. Theres no unlatched test evidence for the door but if the self closing device is able to keep the door closed against the frame is it acceptable?

Hello, I'm replacing some doors in my house in the event I ever rent rooms out in the future. The old doors were fire doors and have now been disposed of. The questions I have are: 1) The frames around the doors aren't fire frames. Is that a problem? Not sure why my father installed fire doors without fire frames but if I can avoid the hassle of replacing the frame, that would be good. 2) The measurements are standard for most of the doors in the corridor but in one room, the size of the gap is: Width: 765mm Height: 1945mm Depth: 44mm The standard door is 1981mm high but I can only cut 10mm off the bottom giving me…

Hi, all. I run maintenance in a residential care home. The manager has now asked that all fire doors are inspected every month. This seems a bit excessive to me. I thought I read somewhere that high traffic areas (corridors and communal areas) were inspected every 3 months and bedrooms every 12 months or am I mistaken? Do the rules change for a care home? Any help on this would be appreciated.

I am new to this site and hope you can help me. I own a flat in a block of eight with a cupboard housing the electricity meters situated in a walkway in an area that is open to the air - so not in the actual building. We have been advised by our management company that the cupboard should be fireproofed. It needs work done to it anyway so we are happy to upgrade it. However, we are being quoted £8,000 which we feel is expensive. The management company are saying that we have to use a company that is on their approved list. Is that the case? They're also saying that we should have a surveyor to provide a schedule of works and to oversee the project at a cost of about £20…

Read through every possible article with no answer written in stone. What is the correct way to reduce the gaps on fire doors that already have smoke brush seals in the door? Can extra brush seals be added to door frame so you have brush seals touching? Building out the door or door frame with timber (4mm x 44mm) or similar is this allowed? If so can it be softwood or hardwood?

I recently had a fire door inspection at my flat, and my door failed due to excessive gaps. I wasn’t fully convinced, so I purchased a fire door gap gauge to check myself. The measurements I took show: Hinge side: gap is only 3mm — well within the acceptable range (2–4mm). Lock side: from around the lock down to the bottom, the gap increases to 7–8mm. The rest of the door is within limits. 💬 My question: Can I fit a fire-rated door lipping to the edge (lock side) to reduce that gap? My door thickness is 44mm (standard FD30). The contractor quoted me £1,500 for a full replacement, which feels excessive when only on…

Hi all, If we're replacing internal fire doors within a hospital as part of a wider fire strategy upgrade mainly to address gaps below doors as well as part of a regular fire door PPM remedial project do we need to get building control involved?

In BS 8214 2016 none of the diagrams show dot and dab plasterboard as to where the sealing should be - i.e should capping seals be covering the gap in blockwork upto a door lining and brought to the face of the plasterboard closing off the void to the rear of the pasterboard as well? Or if joints to a lining and blockwork are tight, should that joint be opened up to min 5mm to place a capping seal here?

We have a 3rd floor flat in a six story block and we have recently had a fire door inspection carried out by Tetra consulting. Pretty much all the 183 flats in the block failed the survey on a number of points, some of which are a bit contentious. Can anyone provide some information of the following as I am finding it pretty much impossible to get a sensible answer from Tetra. The flats were built in 2003 1. Hinges are not CE/UKCA marked. The flats were constructed in 2003, my understanding is that CE/UKCA marking was not required at that time, therefore as long as the hinges are in good condition and suitable for the weight of the door, they shouldn't need to b…

Hi I wonder if i can get some guidance on a issue that has cropped up . I purchased a 3 story 4 bed detached new build house last year , i believe it was built in 2022 and was the show house for the site so remained empty , it has habitable rooms on each floor with stairs down the middle of the house to the front door . I had a snag list done and the report flagged up the following points and he was curious to know how it got signed off, the developer doesnt agree with them and im having difficulty getting them rectified or knowing where to go to get them sorted at no expense to myself. All doors are FD30 1…

Around a Hospital are restricted areas, the doors are fire doors and controlled by a swipe card to pass in one direction. To pass in the other direction is a push button. In an emergency, there is no way to pass through the fire door to a fire exit unless you have a swipe card. On the other side of the door where the push button is to allow people to pass through, is a Green Break glass unit. To me, the Green Break Glass is on the wrong side, it should be on the same side as the swipe card. I said above in an emergency, I did not mention the fire alarm. These doors may go to unlock in the event of the fire alarm going off but what if it has not bee…

Looking to find a solution of where to rout and install cold and smoke seals on this rebated server room fire door if anyone could suggest? Thanks

I’d be very grateful for some advice re above topic. Victorian house converted to five self-contained flats in early eighties. One single fire escape route being the communal stair. “Get out, stay out” policy in place. Grade A, LD 1 fire alarm system is recommended and we’re in starting s20 process to get installed. The “snagging” issue is the small electricity cupboard on the ground floor of the communal hallway. There is no alarm in the electric cupboard nor has it been proposed for the alarm upgrade. It was “retrofitted” in 2017/2018 at a cost of c£1000, on advice of Combined Fire &H&S report, with additional fire resistant material on back of …

We are required to fill the gap between the inner and outer door frame , the inner door frame being part of the fire-rated door system , the outer being a timber frame around the opening in the concrete or brickwork which are installed by the builder. Shop drawings show maximum gap allowed as 10mm and intumescent foam literature says to apply between 10mm to 20mm . No problem with that . the problem is that sometimes we have gaps of 3 to 5mm and we cant get the intumescent foam into such a tight gap . Are we still required to fill these narrow gaps even though they are behind the architrave ? Some are saying if the gap is narrow and is filled …

Hi Everyone, Reading through the various different legislation, and have become stumped. We have student housing - over 11 metres in height, whereby a Flat Door then has a cluster of 4 separate bedrooms inside. Currently, each individual bedroom door is being checked annually by a Fire Door professional in addition to the Flat Entrance Door and Communal doors. My query is - do the internal bedroom doors really need a professional annual check or can these just form part of the checks maintenance staff? The cost is becoming quite significant Thanks in advance,

Hi, I was wondering if you have a certified FD30 fire door and replace the intumescent strips with combined intumescent smoke strips (essentially upgrading the fire door to a smoke door), does this negate the certification of the door or does it simply become a certified FD30S door?

Hello. I am one of the directors for a Right to Manage company for a development of twelve apartments. A recent fire door inspection was arranged by our managing agent, which identified that the existing entrance doors to individual flats (not street-facing) were inadequate. I believe these doors, installed by the developer some years ago, are FD30 rated but the report stated that as they were panelled then at their thinnest points - i.e. where the decorative panels had been routed out - the thickness is less than the required 44mm. I am led to believe that this specific requirement has come about after the changes implemented following the Grenfell inciden…

I have recently carried out a fire door inspection on a building. I have found that a fair percentage of them have bowed or twisted to varying degrees. Could anyone twell me what the maximum permitted bow or twist is? On some of the unequal pairs, the step between the two is up to 6mm at the bottom and I have failed them as a result, but some are only 3-4mm and I am on the fence on what I should do with them.

Hi guys, When checking a fire door with a one inch rebate around the frame, where am I measuring the gap between the door and the frame? From the inside, the gap above and side of the door is in excess of the 4mm but there is a less than 1mm gap between the door and the rebate on the other side so the door is effectively entirely sealed and im not sure how smoke could pass through. So, for fire doors with one inch rebates around the tops and sides, am I checking the door gaps between the door and frame or the door and the rebates? Cheers in advance

Could anyone point me in the right direction here please? A 1970s block of (6) flats over three floors. All six residents share the freehold and pay a service charge to the company they part own A FRA has determined that front doors on five flats need upgrading to reach nominal status and the 6th flat needs a new fire doorset The lease is unclear as who owns (pays for) the front door, as when it defines the demise, it mentions the walls of the common parts but not the doors There is an assumption that it will be cheaper to upgrade the doors (a third hinge, plus strips & seals) than it will be to replace the door and frame in the 6th flat The …

Hi, Does anyone have any guidance on what sealant/foam/etc to use to fire stop around steel doorsets, there is no evidence of any fire stopping at the moment. The clients don’t have any information on the original manufacturers and installers. I’m considering purchasing BS EN 15269-2:2024 has anyone else got this is it worth it? Thank you

I have been researching fire doors and find the guidance a little difficult to pin down for converted flats. It seems more black and white for purpose built flats as it is clearly outlined in the guidance, even then some assessors and fire door surveyors would recommend upgrading all doors with intumescent and smoke seals where the guidance suggests it is acceptable to retain notional FD30 without upgrades providing they self close, fit suitably in their frames and remain in good condition. Lacors suggests in all cases flat entrance doors that open onto the escape route should be FD30S, I assume this also includes upgraded FD30S, but this is not mentioned. …