Fire Doors and Accessories

Hi all, back to the hive mind for some advice on the following. We've done a lot of upgrades to existing nominal FD30 flat entrance doors, adding lots of fittings to bring them closer to current standards, one of those fittings being intumescent brush seals. We've got a couple of the flats that are struggling with air pressure issues in the hallways that are stopping the closer from working properly, open a hallway door and it closes perfectly, close the door and the air pressure stops it. Had a couple of thoughts on potential solutions as below but if anyone could add/recommend a solution or offer any thoughts on the ones below we're more than open to it. Possible S…

Hello, Please see the attached picture and advise on what could be used to close the gap from your product list and how to fit (do we need to re-hang door etc)? There are a few doors with the gaps varying from 4mm to 8mm. Many thanks Nick

Could anyone tell me if frame fit seals are allowable to reduce the gap between a fire door frame and fire door.

Hi Can you please help me with some advice on 3 x FD30 door gaps ,top latch side corner adjustment. My question is.. can I remove architraves and door stops on that side and cut through the frame to adjust the gap and re screw it at an angle through the back of the frame. Ill understand if you don’t want to guide me but I’m stuck and don’t want to make a mistake .

Can anyone advise how i can fix a one off gap in the corner of my door so the gap is no more than 4mm all the way around? The door is fine and fits the frame ok but the top corner (latch side) has a 6mm gap where the rest is 4mm or under, how/what can I do to adjust it to only affect the top corner?

good morning, can anyone help please? i need to cut a vision panel into an fd30 flush veneeered door. Is it possible to keep the ingrity of the door once the openin has bee cut. casn the aperture be lined beofre the fire rated glass and beading is fitted? Many thanks,

Hi, I am building an extension to my two storey semi detached house. My building control inspector has confirmed I need a fire door for what will be the side rear door of the house due to it being within 1 meter of the boundary with a neighbour. ive looked endlessly for a composite fire door that meets the latest regulations post Grenfell Tower but no one seems to offer them any more. Every firm I’ve rung says they do not offer fire doors or that they can only be fitted as an internal door set. It looks like my only option is one of those plain plywood fire doors which I don’t really like the look for a residential property nor think are secure enough. …

I have a three storey house, with kitchen being on the first floor and four bedrooms being on the ground floor. Do I need to have fire doors on the ground floor as well as the first and second inhabited rooms. The electric meter is in a cupboard under the stairs on the ground floor. Does this need to be FD30 as well.

I have been installing fire doors for a few years now and have always used an approved fire stopping sealant for 5-10mm gap and anything between 10-20mm have packed mineral wool tightly and capped with fire stopping sealant. If the gap was over 20mm then we would then look to do something to substrate for example for stud wall repair wall where possible. I know blue 60 is on the market but I’m now seeing installers using a mastic that they say is up to 30mm (with mineral wool) is this an acceptable method for door frames? It’s not often this happens but on occasion the arch’s have not been removed by surveyor.

Can someone please recommend a fire rated closer for a surface-mount sliding fire door? Thanks

I need to put a self closing fire door for my kitchen as the kitchen entance opens into the fire escape route of the flat. Flat is on the 3rd floor of a conversion building. A hinged fire rated door would be too large for the limited dining area. I am thinking of a surface mount sliding door, but cannot find one that is self closing. Pocket door are not ideal in this case. I am also thinkign for two double action fire rated doors (sallon style), which are self closing. Any ideas or feedback?

Hello all, I would be very interested in your thoughts on this matter. When we fire test steel framed glazed fire doors, the sample is installed with a simple base clearance gap to the supporting construction, usually a concrete beam or build-up of concrete blocks. The outcome rarely involves an integrity failure at the base, simply because there is nothing combustible there. In the field, the expectation will be that some form of floor finish will be laid over the floor and that the tested clearance gap will be set against the finished floor. Presumably there is no firm guarantee that the carpet will not ignite, nor how close to the door this might oc…

My brother is having a new fd30s installed to his flat. The original survey measured the height of the existing opening but unknown to them the plasterboard soffit hid the fact that the lintel was higher than the frame by approx 50mm, the door is now made. Can the 50mm gap fe infilled with solid timber/rockwoo firepro etc. and sealed and still comply

Hi. We manage a purpose-built 1970s three-storey block of concrete/masonry construction. 10 flats are accessed via the main communal entrance and internal common areas. We are in the process of ensuring the front doors to these 10 flats are 30-minute fire doors. An additional flat (part of the same block) has its entrance door directly opposite the main communal entrance in a covered passageway area. The door to this flat is not fire-rated (and neither is the communal entrance door). The covered passageway is open at one end but is probably only about 20-30% of the area of all the wall area of the passageway. The flat door is located about 2m away from the main commu…

Hi We are looking to replace 50+ fire door closures on residential front doors in an apartment block. As long as the installer follows the manufacturer's fitting instructions, is there a requirement for the installer to have any accredited competency training and standard, or can any regular skilled trades do it? Thanks

I have had fire doors installed in a property by a contractor. Some of the walls are 45mm and the installer has installed the doors in frames cut down and used the architrave as door stop by overhanging the edges 12mm over the door frame. He believes the architraves suffice as door stop. It is quite unusual I have not seen it before. Would this pass a fire door assessment as we are converting the house for social care FD30 doors were recommended for all the rooms.

Hi I have just fitted a fire door that requires a closer on the push side. I don’t normaly like them fitted on the push side as theres greater loading on the fixings, and it is on the fire side of the door. The budget Eclipse door closer that I normally use will not work as the scissor arm rubs on the chunky stop lath on the door lining (even when using the fish plate). Im sure other fitters have a solution to this when using door linings and stop laths? Would a track type closer work? ie could I fix the door closer arm track directly onto the stop lath? This way when the door pushes open the closer and closer arm clear the stop lath. Looking fo…

I have a large conversion project that requires a FD30 door to cover a 2150mm gap (normal height of 2040mm). It needs to be a pocket door system with a single door of 1950mm minimum (to avoid over complicating there are issues with available space on one side but I could get away with a short side door, steps in front and a staircase behind requires the extreme width solution). My question is (given I have exhausted any solutions that don’t involve putting in steel doors and new concrete ceiling)... can I put 3 regular FD30 doors together using a hardwood sheet each side and just ensure I am using a FD rated ceiling track? And appropriate seals? If this is possi…

I have a block of elderly steel fire doors mounted on two swivel hinges top and threshold. (They do not swivel two ways.) No stopper. Smoke seals. The threshold gaps are in excess of 9mm. Is there anything on the market or drop down seals that would make the doors compliant? With no stopper, conventional drop seals couldn't be activated. Any thoughts pls.

Hi, We have a couple of blocks in a London borough with a fair amount of fire doors within them. The blocks were built or in early/mid 2000's. The doors are of a regency style and have a 2mm metal skin on them with a beech hardwood perimeter framework. There is a hole/cap on the head of the door where it is assumed the foam injection was applied. The only markings present are on the top with '09-06-05'. Id guess this a manufacturer date. We have had no such luck with the developer, and cannot seem to identify these door sets at all. Do any of you know a way/system to find some sort of manufacturers information? I've read on here possibly on/under a …

Hello I currently own and live in a 2 bedroom flat in Scotland. I live on the 5th floor of a block with 6 floors in total. All the doors in the flat are fire doors and all have self closing devices (with the exception of the 2 bathrooms). They are essentially just overhead hinges but do the job fine. I just wanted clarification on whether it is a legal requirement to have self closing devices on all doors? Prior to buying the flat I rented it for a couple of years and wasn’t sure if these devices were on the doors due to landlord requirements? Many Thanks

Good evening, We are planning to purchase a 3 floor house. As I understand the doors between the stairwell and habitable rooms have to be (FD30) fire doors. As per the floor plan attached (I hope I was able to attach) on the 1st floow there are 2 fire doors, one between the kitchen and stairwell and another one between the living room and stairwell. We would like to move the door 2 to be door 3 (i.e. we will terminate door 2, to wall in and make a new door), and the door 3 will be a double fire door. This way there will be still firedoor between the stairwell and living room but on a different place. My question is if it can be done please? Obviosuly we have t…

Should all lockset latching keeps which have voids be intumescent protected as standard compliancy? I have come across numerous chiselled out keeps which must surely present as fire barrier breaches

Hi I am an owner/occupier of a purpose built flat in Leeds that currently has the original flat entrance notional fire door in place. The Management Company (and Managing Agent used) are responsible for the communal areas, but I am responsible for my own door. The Managing Agent had a Risk Assessment done a while ago and after initialy providing some guidance to leasholders about checking our fire doors, they subsequently told leaseholders "the doors are not fit for purpose and must be replaced", but having chased them for a copy of the Risk Assessment their latter statement does not appear to tally with the recommendations of the Risk Assessment or my understa…

With regard to the voids created when installing a lock keep, should it not be a case that all such fixings should incorporate intumescent protection?