Fire Doors and Accessories

I have a customer who wants a loft conversion. Hallway doors are original and 44mm solid wood. They have a glazed panel. Can that panel be replaced with fire regulated glass and still meet regulation

Hi, Are door closers required in rooms in a mental health hospital or is this something a fire risk assessment should specify?

Is it a legal requirement to have a vision panel in fire doors. A commercial multi occupied building with unit doors onto communal corridors which is a fire escape route - can they be solid or need vision panel?

Hi folks, I wondered if anyone was able to help with an internal fire door issue. Building Control have asked that i put an internal fire door on the Bathroom. The door frame is wonky as it's an old house. is it possible to buy custom doors like our requirements below? i doesn't seem like i can cutdown a standard fire door ( having read previous comments). Or am i going to have to get a builder in to resize the door frame, to get a standard door to fit? Help gratefully received. Our door frame is 711mm. At the top 749mm at the bottom And height 1925mm

Morning There is currently a discussion going on in our office with regard fire doors with 25mm rebated frames. I have searched on here and found a few posts, basically confirming this was satisfactory in the 1980's and the idea was superseded by strips and seals, after a rebate failed a test However its now 2021 and would be grateful if one of the FD experts on here could confirm if doors with 25mm rebates are compliant now, especially for sleeping accommodation (Hotel Rooms) Personally I am uncomfortable with the hotel rooms, riser doors and store cupboards doors relying on rebates in protected corridors. Any clear advice would be appreciated …

Dear all, Could you tell me if there is a maximum gap between the unequal door leaves of double leaf fire door? if there is a maximum gap size at the bottom of the fire door? Thanks in advance

Hi, Does the installation of an appropriately fire rated letterbox into an apartment front fire door (FD30) automatically undermine the FD30 door certification rating if the original test certificate was based on no letterbox slot installed? Even if the letterbox slot is certified fire rated and has been installed into said door accordingly? Would this not actually become a nominal FD30 in the absences of a specific test certificate of said specific door and letterbox combination? Given that both door and letterbox slot are fire rated - and installed accordingly ? Vs deemed non compliant? Thanks in advance

I know that the clearance on a fire door has to be 4mm (vertical edges and top of door?) and 8mm bottom of door BUT is that 4mm or 8mm measured from the outeredge of the door itself OR the outer edge of the intumescent / brush strip. I cannot find the answer to this anywhere!!

Is the use of a Dorgard door release/retainer in a high-rise block of flats legally prohibited, or is it merely a recommendation? If it is legally prohibited, in what regulation?

Perhaps you can help me here please with a rumbling disagreement I have where I work. I work in a care home and it has been suggested that as there’s a sprinkler system fitted, the fire doors aren’t as critical. Should the integrity of fire doors be less important if a sprinkler system is fitted, or would I be correct in thinking the sprinklers are irrelevant and the fire doors should still be fully compliant with current fire door regulations? I have been trained in fire door inspections, so have followed current regulations, but am new to working in a building with a sprinkler system. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Hello! I'm looking for some guidance on a particular set of fire doors currently in existence in a property of mine. They are graded using the old colour coded plug system, they have a blue core with an outside rim. I've found the article on this website that states these ARE 30 minute fire doors and are up to spec BUT they need intumescent strips. My question was, is there any other guidance on these old plug methods of fire door gradings available, possibly some that outline the specifics they need with the intumescent strip fitting to make them FD30S compliant. Many thanks for your help.

Hi everyone thank you in Advance. I’ve done a fair few in inspection now and been as accurate and descriptive as possible . Question I have is if a Fd30 label is on the top of a door can this be identified as an Fd30’s, if all smoke seals are present ? Was there a date manufactures may have started used the “S” suffix on there labels . In short should I say it’s Fd30 with smoke protection and a Fd30’s door ? It is the smoke seals only that give the smoke protection ? Correct ? I was always give the correct advice in terms of threshold gaps and correctly check fire and smoke seals are present . Appreciate and help.

Hi Longshot this one but I'm looking for a number coded lock for both 30 min and 60 min doors, these doors aren't on fire escape routes but will be required as the only mechanism of keeping the door shut. The blanks being utilised are from Flamebreak and the following is from the FOA both 30 and 60 mins are pretty much the same.... Any help would be greatly appreciated

Hi, I've undertaken a full refurbishment of my home and have problems with sound travelling around too easily. All the internal doors are new and have gaps of 1-2cm at the bottom with no intumescent strips anywhere around the door or frame, and there is no certification label on the door. My architect specced FD30 fire doors which my builder fabricated and installed himself. I don't think these are FD30. My architect is now saying the doors need large gaps at the bottom to accommodate the MVHR ventilation system. 1. Sound is travelling too easily with these big gaps - can I have flush fitting doors that reduce sound transfer whilst allowing the MVHR to function? …

Hi all, back once again to the knowledge collective for some sound advice. Had a good hunt around online but couldn't find a figure for the Maximum allowable gap between the front FACE of the fire door (flat entrance door, FD30) and the door stops. Just to give a little background on it, we're upgrading existing nominal/notional doors with strips, hinges, correct gaps etc and some of our original rebated frames have had some slight movement/twisting over the years as they've seasoned meaning that there are some minor gaps at different places along the frames (anything up to 2mm in places and typically towards the bottom of the frame legs) between the face of the…

What seals do electrical riser cupboard do need smoke and fire or just smoke thanks

I’m currently in the process of renovating my home. It is a 3 bedroom semi detached house and is ‘back to brick’ as such. It’s having a complete electrical rewire, new heating system and smoke alarms will be in all rooms, apart from the main bathroom and loft conversion en-suite. A LD1 or LD2 system from what I’ve looked at on the web? On the building inspectors last visit she has sent me the site inspection report. She has stated in comments; Discussed mains operated Interlinked smoke detection to be installed in all habitable rooms at all levels within the circulation areas. Note that this is under the old regulations before changes to fire doors. Details re…

Hi Guys, my daughter has just bought her first apartment. There was a fire door inspection done a couple of years ago but the previous occupant had not done the advised work. We have now carried out most of the work, fitted a new fire door with pads and new fire cert fittings and replace the intrumescent seals that are rebated in the frame. We have one issue left. The door frame left to right is slightly greater in one small area (approx 8") of the required 2-4mm gap. It is 5mm We haven't planed the door left to right. So we have the 2-4mm gap hinge side & top and most the latch side. The gap is simply larger than the unplaned door width + 4mm +4mm. …

Hi Wondering if anyone can help me with where I stand on leading edges. I use a wide variety of fire doors and I'm constantly reading global assessments daily for my work. But one thing that is rarely covered is "Can I but a bevel on the leading edge on a fire door to aid the closing?". Nearly all doors need the back edge of the stile on the closing side beveling so that it doesn't hit the frame and gives some clearance. Some global assessments allow a 2.5deg bevel (but still refer you to the max gaps section) and others don't mention anything. Thoughts?

Hello! I'm planning to renovate my apartment and as a part of said renovation, I am looking to replace my existing 23 year old FD30S fire doors. The problem I have is that I wish to install new floor-to-ceiling door (leaf dimensions will be approximately 2400mm x 900mm; frame thickness will be 100mm) with bespoke oak veneer and handles (see attached photo for an examples, but ignore handles). The frames also need to be quite simple (again, see attached photo). I would like to know how this can be achieved, if at all! I am happy to purchase fire door frames and leaves (blanks or without finish), intumescent strips as well as fire rated hinges et cetera. I al…

Hi all We have many door sets that have been identified on an inspection as needing to be replaced. We have been quoted £1500 inc vat for fd30 doorset including closer, ironmongery, stops and architrave. Does this sound reasonable? They have FDIS accreditation

I've been going through the Fire Safety Survey taken out on our company premises last month and I was looking for some clarity on the legal requirements/regulations surrounding fire doors. Is it a legal requirement to install fire doors where a survey has requested? We are in quite an old building with a warehouse/depot downstairs and new offices upstairs (with around 25-30 employees upstairs) and they flagged one door into an archive room and then all the electrical cupboards downstairs. I understand the need for fire doors on electrical cupboards but the door into the archive room is not on an escape route so I don't know whether it is necessary? If any…

Hi Does anyone have experience of dealing with doors like these? set back in a 200mm surround We'd like to change for certified doors and add an exterior frame. I can't find any example of this - is it a viable idea. New door will be rebated and lined with fire brush etc and the frame will go in the surround close to the door covering part of the door. We need about 120 so can be made to measure.

Hi, Could someone please advise me of best practice with the repair to some fire doors. I’m an accredited third party installer and have been sent a job to replace some lipping. The doors look to be leaderflush as the hinges are labelled but no actual label on the door set. Someone has cut the groove for the seals but have over recessed them and done a poor job. They are double doors but they have cut seals opposite each other on both leaves. As I have no information/ test evidence I’m reluctant to replace lipping and install x2 seals opposite each other. Would a new door set be required?

The maximum gap between fire door and frame is specified in BS 8214 as 4mm. A bigger gap may be acceptable if supported by a fire performance test. Q. Has the maximum gap always been 4mm or was it bigger in previous recognised guidance?