Fire Doors and Accessories

Evening all, Looking for suggestions on identifying the manufacturer of the door sets in the attached link: https://postimg.cc/gallery/dd3dzw9 These are installed across a site, but no documentation is held locally. BM TRADA coloured plugs are fitted to the top of the doors, but the numbers are unreadable. Label has been routered through, making it illegible. My main concern is the installation of the top infill panels: Panels are flush to one face of the frame, with approx. 3–4mm gaps around the perimeter. Beading has only been installed on one side. Panels appear to be screwed through the frame into the panel — likely done prior t…

The seems no systematic/designed solution ,to stop smoke passing through most fire-rated door hinges: between the leaves; through the spaces between the leafs and the knuckle (see white wire in .jpg below); around the knuckle. I can't find a fire-rated smoke seal for hinges and can only imagine a fire-rated adhesive foam - similar to a window draught excluder strip. BTW please, how far should the knuckle or its pin best be positioned from the jambs?

Have just moved into a rented property that has an internal front fire door with intumescent strips. I am discussing with the landlord with a view to increasing top of door frame to allow standard single bed to fit due to the very sharp angle to get up flight of stairs. Door height at lowest point is 1950mm whereas the bed stands upright at 1990mm. The perhaps most contentious point is whether the fire door needs to be replaced entirely with new hinges to take up the new height or if a joiner can cut/add fire door to it and re-insert intumescent strips around new piece. Also I believe the existing door is not certified any more when first inst…

Hi. I know that internal doors within flats should meet FD20 min standard and should be shut during the night. However, if said doors have glass panels above them for borrowed light, should the glass be fire rated. Cheers Graham.

Hey there, have a large gap over 4mm between door frame and beginning of where drop down fire door seal starts. Can I use fire mastic to seal it? Or should I look at other options? Thanks, Steph

Hi For fire doors, the building regulations state an equal gap of a minimum 2mm gap and a maximum 4mm gap between the fire door leaf and frame. Is this just a guideline or is this the law and needs to be strictly adhered to, and if the fire doors' gaps are less then this minimum amount or more than this maximum amount are they considered illegal in the eyes of the law and will need correcting? When I've used a fire door gap tester I found that all the fire doors I checked were below and above these minimum and maximum gap tolerances. I've been given conflicting information on this. Some say this is the law and is strictly needed to be adhered to …

Has anyone come across a intastop hinge? It’s a continuous hinge that has been tested to BS 476-20/22 but just wanted to know if it can be used on a door that’s had normal ball bearing hinges installed?

Hi ..are fire doors with concealed intumescent strip ( fitted under hardwood lipping ) still available/used and or compliant?

Hi we have had a FD60 installed in a softwood frame. The frame also has a side panel. The drawing states the door should be an FD30S. If the door is rated higher is this an issue? Also the fire seals cut on the frame are not central it looks like someone has cut them to upgrade to be fire rated. Would a new door set be required?

We have a couple of door sets in our building that I think are not compliant but would like to know if they can repaired. The first doorset had the door opening into the room but got turned around to open outwards. The frame now has an intumescent/smoke seal on the frame with the brush removed and painted over and the seals has now been put in the door. Should this be left or removed?. What is a repair technique for this? The second doorset it looks as though someone has planed it slightly. Would this cause an issue with the frame ? Thank you in advance.

I have a customer who wants a loft conversion. Hallway doors are original and 44mm solid wood. They have a glazed panel. Can that panel be replaced with fire regulated glass and still meet regulation

Hi, Are door closers required in rooms in a mental health hospital or is this something a fire risk assessment should specify?

Is it a legal requirement to have a vision panel in fire doors. A commercial multi occupied building with unit doors onto communal corridors which is a fire escape route - can they be solid or need vision panel?

Hi folks, I wondered if anyone was able to help with an internal fire door issue. Building Control have asked that i put an internal fire door on the Bathroom. The door frame is wonky as it's an old house. is it possible to buy custom doors like our requirements below? i doesn't seem like i can cutdown a standard fire door ( having read previous comments). Or am i going to have to get a builder in to resize the door frame, to get a standard door to fit? Help gratefully received. Our door frame is 711mm. At the top 749mm at the bottom And height 1925mm

Morning There is currently a discussion going on in our office with regard fire doors with 25mm rebated frames. I have searched on here and found a few posts, basically confirming this was satisfactory in the 1980's and the idea was superseded by strips and seals, after a rebate failed a test However its now 2021 and would be grateful if one of the FD experts on here could confirm if doors with 25mm rebates are compliant now, especially for sleeping accommodation (Hotel Rooms) Personally I am uncomfortable with the hotel rooms, riser doors and store cupboards doors relying on rebates in protected corridors. Any clear advice would be appreciated …

Dear all, Could you tell me if there is a maximum gap between the unequal door leaves of double leaf fire door? if there is a maximum gap size at the bottom of the fire door? Thanks in advance

Hi, Does the installation of an appropriately fire rated letterbox into an apartment front fire door (FD30) automatically undermine the FD30 door certification rating if the original test certificate was based on no letterbox slot installed? Even if the letterbox slot is certified fire rated and has been installed into said door accordingly? Would this not actually become a nominal FD30 in the absences of a specific test certificate of said specific door and letterbox combination? Given that both door and letterbox slot are fire rated - and installed accordingly ? Vs deemed non compliant? Thanks in advance

I know that the clearance on a fire door has to be 4mm (vertical edges and top of door?) and 8mm bottom of door BUT is that 4mm or 8mm measured from the outeredge of the door itself OR the outer edge of the intumescent / brush strip. I cannot find the answer to this anywhere!!

Is the use of a Dorgard door release/retainer in a high-rise block of flats legally prohibited, or is it merely a recommendation? If it is legally prohibited, in what regulation?

Perhaps you can help me here please with a rumbling disagreement I have where I work. I work in a care home and it has been suggested that as there’s a sprinkler system fitted, the fire doors aren’t as critical. Should the integrity of fire doors be less important if a sprinkler system is fitted, or would I be correct in thinking the sprinklers are irrelevant and the fire doors should still be fully compliant with current fire door regulations? I have been trained in fire door inspections, so have followed current regulations, but am new to working in a building with a sprinkler system. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Hello! I'm looking for some guidance on a particular set of fire doors currently in existence in a property of mine. They are graded using the old colour coded plug system, they have a blue core with an outside rim. I've found the article on this website that states these ARE 30 minute fire doors and are up to spec BUT they need intumescent strips. My question was, is there any other guidance on these old plug methods of fire door gradings available, possibly some that outline the specifics they need with the intumescent strip fitting to make them FD30S compliant. Many thanks for your help.

Hi everyone thank you in Advance. I’ve done a fair few in inspection now and been as accurate and descriptive as possible . Question I have is if a Fd30 label is on the top of a door can this be identified as an Fd30’s, if all smoke seals are present ? Was there a date manufactures may have started used the “S” suffix on there labels . In short should I say it’s Fd30 with smoke protection and a Fd30’s door ? It is the smoke seals only that give the smoke protection ? Correct ? I was always give the correct advice in terms of threshold gaps and correctly check fire and smoke seals are present . Appreciate and help.

Hi Longshot this one but I'm looking for a number coded lock for both 30 min and 60 min doors, these doors aren't on fire escape routes but will be required as the only mechanism of keeping the door shut. The blanks being utilised are from Flamebreak and the following is from the FOA both 30 and 60 mins are pretty much the same.... Any help would be greatly appreciated

Hi, I've undertaken a full refurbishment of my home and have problems with sound travelling around too easily. All the internal doors are new and have gaps of 1-2cm at the bottom with no intumescent strips anywhere around the door or frame, and there is no certification label on the door. My architect specced FD30 fire doors which my builder fabricated and installed himself. I don't think these are FD30. My architect is now saying the doors need large gaps at the bottom to accommodate the MVHR ventilation system. 1. Sound is travelling too easily with these big gaps - can I have flush fitting doors that reduce sound transfer whilst allowing the MVHR to function? …

Hi all, back once again to the knowledge collective for some sound advice. Had a good hunt around online but couldn't find a figure for the Maximum allowable gap between the front FACE of the fire door (flat entrance door, FD30) and the door stops. Just to give a little background on it, we're upgrading existing nominal/notional doors with strips, hinges, correct gaps etc and some of our original rebated frames have had some slight movement/twisting over the years as they've seasoned meaning that there are some minor gaps at different places along the frames (anything up to 2mm in places and typically towards the bottom of the frame legs) between the face of the…