Fire Doors and Accessories

Are night latches allowed on flat entrance doors?. The door has no information on it & was installed in late 70’s early 80’s. I thought drilling through doors was not allowed.

A new one too me here and asking for any advice from the forum. We have had a rogue pair of joiners who obviously no longer work for us!! They have fixed the door sets through the frame not behind the fire and smoke seal. It proves some of these guys with nvq's, training certs and references no nothing!! Is there anything I can do to rectify the situation which would leave no risk and be acceptable? Thank god it's Friday!!

Could you please help with some questions on a door survey that was done in our office. The report came back and said 1). we need door closers on 1/2 leaf. the door is locked with x2 bolts & has a keep locked sign. Are closers needed? 2). A couple of doors have maglocks that have been bolted through the door. There is no information on the door. The inspector recommends new doors as there is an integrity breach. Can maglocks be removed & door repaired?

Hi there, I have a question regarding the gap at the bottom of the door, I have a riser door with a full frame all around, but at the bottom, the so-called threshold is part of the frame, my question is if this gap is treated as a gap around the (2mm - 4mm) or as a bottom gap up to 10mm.

Hi all, I've read through previous topics on rim night latches on fire doors and can see its a bit of grey area and I am struggling to find one that is suitable for my clients needs. (FD60 and Black) I was thinking a mortice option may be safer and was thinking of going with a euro mortice night latch, but the door already has a sash lock installed. Can it affect the integrity of a door to have two DIN lock cases installed? This is a FD60 timber front door for a flat for context

Good evening Folks, Please can you help with this. I`m currently the owner of one of three flats in a two floor conversion property in East London. Gas & electric meters, plus fuse boxes are housed in a hallway cupboard & I`ve been advised that the existing doors - wooden & hollow 18" x 77" should be replaced with fire rated doors. I would be grateful for any guidance concerning manufacturers, materials, type of locks, hinges, & in-tumescent strips etc. Kind regards JB

Good evening, Our block has recently been inspected and all the tenants have been told that they need 'cold smoke seals' added. When I spoke with the inspector he suggested that these are easy to buy online and install myself. I have had a quick look and I'm not sure what I need! The door has intumescent strips recessed into the door frame and also has batwing seals. Is this not enough? Will I need to remove the intumescent strips and replace them with Fire & Smoke strips? Or is there a smoke seal I can add on top of the strips? Thanks,

I am selling a 1930's 3 story house and does it need to have fire doors on all the rooms.

Hello Community, I'm seeking guidance on how to address significant issues with a fire door installation at my home, which has undergone multiple inspections: 1. Background of Inspections: The initial inspection was carried out by building management, identifying several compliance issues. The contractor, who is primarily a locksmith, was then hired to fix these issues based on the initial inspection results. 2. Non-Compliant Door Closer: Despite the intention to rectify compliance issues, the contractor installed a Perko R2 door closer. Upon contacting the manufacturer, I confirmed that this model does not comply with current UK or EU regulations for fire …

Can anyone assist on the following please Did labelling of certified fire doors and hinge appear prior to 2000 I live in 3 storey apartment block and during recent investigation found no markings on either door or hinges identifying fire safety regulations I have been advised that the doors are steel lined, would this be a common fire door construction in the 2000 era Any advise would be gratefully accepted

If fire door glazing does not have a fire rated glass stamp, I guess the only way to tell if it is fire rated is to check with the manufacturer from the BWF label as to what the door should have in it for the rating it is the ask a certified FR glazing contractor, or you may find some information in the building file? Does FR glazing have to have a stamp?

For a flat on the 3rd floor of a 4 storey block of flats. A door inspection found a 9mm gap under one part of the threshold drop down smoke seal. The flat is new and the developers contractor came and said there was no problem as the gap could be up to 10mm. The inspection report says it should be 3mm as the door has smoke seals. The inspection report matches my understanding but am I missing something?

Hi, Can a brush draft excluder be used at the bottom of a fire door that has smoke control to reduce the spread of smoke? The gap is 3.5-5mm but I have been told it needs to be 3mm for smoke. The floor is uneven so a threshold strip may cause door leaf not to close.

We have installed some fire door sets and after installation found the leaf to be sat 3mm proud of the frame. We have checked the frames will a level and laser and they have been installed plumb. This is now with the supplier but the doors have obviously now been deemed a fail and concerned how we can rectify this without replacement. Can any one advise of a solution instu that may bring these back within the 1mm allowance??? TIA

Hello, I’m new on this forum and have found it very helpful. Can anyone advise me please. Below is a quote from a fire door and building regulations approved BWF. https://www.jbkind.com/uploads/pdfs/JBK_Fact_Sheet_Fire_Doors_and_Building_Regulations.pdf. Smoke seals are recommended on doors approaching or protecting escape shafts such as stairs and corridors and where a door separates a private area from a common space such as a flat front door. Smoke seals are also recommended on doors in sections of corridors that lead to dead ends. Note: Where smoke seals are required, the threshold gap (at the bottom of the door) must be set at no more than 3 m…

I have a question that I'm struggling to find an answer to. I need a some fire door to be installed in domestic and non domestic buildings. My friend is a carpenter and can make them, however he does not have any certification regarding fire door. Is it possible that he will manufacture and install fire door needed and a Fire Door Inspector will sing them off and issue a valid completion certificate. Does the manufacturer have to resource all the components for the fire door from certified suppliers?

Hi, I have to install a batwing smoke seal to a FD120 timber doorset and wanted to know if there is a specific size I have to use? I wanted to use the 10x10mm seals as this would mean I wouldn’t have to move the door stop back as much as the bigger seals. Is 10x10mm acceptable? I’m unable to find any information that tells me 10mm cannot be used.

We are renovating a 3 storey victorian terrace for bed and breakfast use. I'm struggling to find guidance for 3 storey, but know it is different from the small paying guest accommodation regulations. Do all doors need to be FD30 and does this mean we need to install new door frames as well, or is it only the doors on the stairway that need to be fire doors (and frames)? If we have a lounge door in a corridor near the front door does this need to be a fire door? We will be getting an assessment, but want to get on with the works so that the assessment should, hopefully just be a sign off, and as yet cannot find the regulations we need to follow. …

Good morrning, Is it possible to use spruce wood wedges to insert a wooden door frame made of softwood into a brick wall opening for FD 30?

Is a mag lock being fitted to a Keep locked fire door acceptable? No other lock present. On a riser/services/cleaners store room etc. My intuition is no but I'm happy to corrected.

After some help, we have a property where a resident has behavioral challenges whereby he regular slams the fire doors, we have tried changing the door closures, using door stops, but nothing seems to stop him damaging the frame of the door with constant slamming. The door is on a protected corridor and we have spend a lot of time and money looking for a solution, preventing the resident targeting the door will only lead to further behavioral challenges. Any advice gratefully received.

Hi I am an Estate Manger who recently had a survey for Fire Doors in 3 buildings consisting of 4 flats in each block with a single staircase, and we have a stay out policy in play. The survey recommends remedial works for them to qualify as nominal fire doors, and the company who submitted the report who are FIRAS Registered maintain the world must be completed by a fully qualified individual otherwise they refuse to certify. I maintain as they are existing nominal 30 mins FD the remedial works could be done by a skilled and competent joiner/carpenter. Am I right to make this assumption? I cannot find a definitive answer other than relating to a new door set mus…

Hi, I have had a council visit and they have stated there are gaps over 4mm between the door and frames throughout the property. I have looked online and come across frame-fit which look like the perfect solution to this issue without replacing all the frames. Has anybody used this before? I have messaged the company who sell the product as I will need a registered inspector to sign this off also. Thanks

Hi all , I’ve recently carried out a survey on an apartment block, that has recently had a refurb . All the doors are existing with no test evidence or manufacturers documentation. They are all nominal suggested Fd30s. Only works done to them are to change any components that may have failed I.e strips missing , closer not working etc . The lobby doors have glazing but no fire rated markings . The glass is wired . Would I be safe to say this is a pass and write a caveat, to say I’ve pass off the history and integrity wired glass, has in relation to holding back fire . Or fail , leaving the customer with no option to replace ??? (Seems extreme ) . Thanks in adva…

Hi, In my office we have several door sets which are a leaf & half. The half leaf has no bolts so can just be pushed open. If both doors get pushed open together the half leaf will not close and hits on the main door. Is this an installation problem. Should the half leaf close even if opened first.?