Fire Doors and Accessories

After any advice from the forum 🤞 We have some FED's which are on external balconies and have ducts and services passing through the existing fan light sections. Our door supply can not provide any testing to cover pipework and vents passing through the fan light section and the client has flat refused to relocate anything. If we install fire batt and intumecent sealant across the fan light section is there a a standard board used for cladding over / protecting the fire batt from damage that anyone has used for ease??

Hi, my apartment fire door has a gap of 12mm from the floor and I was thinking to use this https://www.safelincs.co.uk/surface-mounted-drop-down-smoke-seal/?q=seal does that mean that once that is in place it's enough to be compliant? Or is it just a temporary solution? If it's not enough to be considered compliant how can I fix that? Would a fire resistant threshold strip help? Not even sure it exists. The gaps on the sides go between 1mm and 4mm is there anything that can be done there? I think it's because the door or the frame are not perfectly straight. There is a small gap, 1 or 2 mm between the hinges and the end of the intume…

Are latches allowed on corridor/stairwell doors in sheltered housing? They have self closing devices but I thought they should just be pushed open.

Are vision panels on old doors still compliant today if they are only 200mm from the bottom of the door? Should these doors be changed. They are on a corridors and I am concerned they might get damaged. We have no information on the doors.

Hi, Do we need to have a fire door in a porch of a ground floor flat in a converted Victorian house? I’ve attached the plan for reference. If it’s part of the regulation, can you guide me where I find it? I really appreciate your help. Thanks

Hi, is the CF number on the top or side of an FD30 door mandatory? I know someone that have their door without it. It was replaced a while ago by a contractor that assured the door is FD30 but didn't provide any CF number with it. Is that acceptable or even possible? If the brush seal is in the frame, I don't understand how this would work. The guy is also panicking because he's afraid the management company could sue him for breach of lease. I've told him that's not going to happen if he demonstrates his good will and that he wants to make things right, but I would like to know your opinion. Thank you

Hi there We are currently selling our 3-storey property. We have had a viewer who claims to be in the building regulations business and stated that we 'may' have issues at the conveyancing stage as we have removed 2 doors however he said it was a 'grey area' due to when the house was built and when we removed them - so I thought I would give the full scenario here and see if anyone can offer some definitive advice please. House - 3 storey semi-detached townhouse built in 2004, purchased by us in 2009 Ground floor - hallway off of which kitchen at front, lounge at rear (leading to garden through french doors), and small toilet room. Fire doors (with auto-c…

We recently purchased a "new build" converted flat and observed that the gaps at the head and non-hinge side jamb of the FD30s flat front door exceeded 4mm. To remedy that the developer's joinery contractor has adjusted the head and non-hinge side jamb to close the gap, and included some packers to adjust the door hanging. The gaps are now under 4mm all round. Our concern is how to remedy what we (are now presuming) is an increased gap between the frame and the wall. We are not aware of the developer having done anything other than to cosmetically deal with the gap between the wall and the frame At its widest point, I suspect these gaps are around 10mm. There is arch…

Hi, If rising butts have been installed to a front door should a new door be required. The top edge has been chamfered a lot so gaps can be seen. Also no fire seals have not been installed & we have been told the construction of the door is tubular chipboard (as this can be seen from the cut out of the letterbox )& won’t be easy installing the seals. The doors were installed in the 80’s & have no info on them.

Hi, We live in a three storey house that was built in 2004 - my understanding is that any door that opens into the stairwell should be a fire door, however, does the door frame also need to be a fire door frame? The joiner has come today today to change a few of the doors and frames. He was unable to do this as he states the door frame we currently have is not a fire door frame, and the frame he had brought wouldn't fit as it was wider than the standard frame and the only way to do this would be to cut the stud wall back - which would also result in some electrics needing to be moved - costings (his quote) around 1K per door and frame. Could anyone please a…

Hi Do all fire doors in commercial premises need to have smoke seals fitted? in this case, an office accommodation. The query has been raised that, whilst fire doors along means of escape such as stairways and protected corridors have fire strips (intumescent) and smoke brushes, doors to store rooms, boiler cupboards, electrical equipment housing in accommodation areas have only fire/intumescent strips. Third party Fire Risk Assessor has said that all fire doors must have both intumescent strips and smoke seals/brushes. But, a third party fire consultant has said that this is not the case - reason being that, in an office accommodation, there is not any…

In our block of flats the corridor doors which are fd30 have had 20mm fire seals put on them recently to upgrade. I read that the seals should be 15mm. Does this mean that the door is no good?

Hi, UK based with a 1930’s property. We have gone open plan downstairs, second floor has 3 bedrooms (2 existing with old doors and 1 new bedroom with a new fire door). loft upstairs has a fire door as also new. We have alarms in all rooms downstairs (hall/living room/open plan). we have fire alarm in the loft and a fire alarm on second floor. we don’t have fire alarms in the bedrooms on second floor. building control say we either have a fully integrated fire alarm system with an alarm in every single room or the entire house is fire doors. We can’t mix and match. We can’t find this in statute/regs…

HiI, Do fire doors with mainly glass in them have to be renewed? It’s in a school and we have been told it doesn’t meet the standards required as the doors are 40years old. Also can draft excluders at the bottom of the door be used to reduce the gap?

Hi, Im trying to find information on the regulations regarding Steel fire door sets and the gap allowance. Can anyone help me? Is it the same tolerance as timber fire doors 2-4mm? Thank you

Hi, just after some advice as the regulations I feel aren’t very clear. We have a 3 storey house built in 2004, all doors bar the interconnecting door from kitchen to living room and bathroom doors are fire doors with self closing chain. I know the self closing chain is no longer a requirement but do we need fire doors on the downstairs doors? It says habitable rooms off the stairwell but doesn’t mention anything about downstairs rooms The stairs end next to the front door so has an exit route. Do the downstairs doors to the living room and to the kitchen (not the interconnecting door) require fire doors or not? Thanks Jess

I'm inspecting firedoors where the gap at jamb is so tight you could barely fit a sheet of paper in. The data sheet and the fire test report only mention maximum allowable gaps. BS8214 (9.5.2) says that a typical gap should be 2 mm to 4mm. Is there a minimum allowable gap? Should I accept these doors? Thanks.

Hi I am enquiring about an issue I currently have the loft conversion I have recently completed. We have had to adjust the fire doors to work with the pitch of the sloping ceiling. So one side of the doo is cut and say a 42 degree angle from a third of the width of the door. Is there a product you sell or on the market which you could apply to cap the top of the door to reinstate the 30 min requirement again.

Hi. Can anyone advise on the following? In a pre-1991 conversion of 2 flats on the first floor, the doors to flats are 44mm thick and appear solid and in good condition. Do they need to be upgraded with intumescent/smoke seals and a door closer. There is a very low risk of fire in the shared communal area.

We have bee advised that the gaps around fire doors must be between 2mm and 4mm. Our door frames have rebated intumescent seals fitted on three sides which protrude by around 3mm and the doors gently close against the strips. Doors have been declared high risk as some have a 5mm gap at the trailing edge of the door, even though the door closes against the seal. Is this advice correct and if not what advice would you suggest.

Does existing GWPP glazing which has no visible marking fitted in nominal fire door need to have intumescent seals fitted retrospectively ? I don't understand why an inspector would request this given that the glass isn't marked. If the original glass isn't broken and the beadings are intact and secure then wouldn't this be deemed as a notional door ?

Is there any guidance on whether the final exit door should be fit with a closing device?

hello was hoping to get some advise on the below with the new fire safety regulations coming into play earlier this year I've been trying to find information on requirements for maisonette flat entrance doors I have a row of maisonette flats above some ground floor flats that are all accessed via a shared raised open air walkway. under the new regulations i would class this area as a communal space putting them within scope however as these flat entrance doors open onto the elements I'm a bit unsure if fire rated doors are required. just wondering if anyone can clarify what the regulations now require for a building of this design or perhaps people have had…

Hi all. At work we have 9 Buildings across the whole of the UK in them we have circa 800 firedoors (healthcare facilities). Fire doors have been neglected somewhat, so here's the quandary. We need them inspected regularly and I know we are looking at a big remediation bill after the first round. My thinking is I employ an independent FD inspector (FDIS and or NAFDI) but one who doesn't do repairs. From this I can tender the remedial to a company that offers 3rd party certification, then do the works. Questions Does this seem sensible, especially the independent (non repairing) approach FDIS or NAFDI Are all 3rd party warranties the same …

Hello Can anyone confirm the exact situation regarding replacing all Flat Front Doors with FD30s? Is this mandatory? Regards Dave