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  1. Hi Tom, thank you. The links are really helpful.
  2. Hi All, Do all roof voids (regardless of size) in premises need to be compartmentalised with walls which extend to the underside of the roof to fall in line with the walls in the floor(s) beneath them? Or does having continuous plasterboard ceilings remove the need for cavity barriers in the roof void at all? We have a building which has a protected stairway used for refuge and evacuation, and has continuous plasterboard ceiling across the top floor between roof void space. But the walls in the stairway do not extend up through the roof void space leaving the roof void completely open space. Diagram 9.1 of ADB suggests the voids should have cavity barriers (regardless of ceiling type?) and I cannot see any specific mention in the Gov documents to help. Any guidance / steer would be much appreciated.
  3. Hi AnthonyB, that's great - thank you as always for your help.
  4. Hi Tom - not for the gas installation. They had sign off certificate when building first constructed (approximately 8 years ago). But no certificate / sign off for the new gas system and the pipe in the stairway. What are you thinking?
  5. I was wondering if anyone had any experience or thoughts on this please? We have had a new gas system installed in a small block of offices; it has 3 floors (ground, first and second) and has a single, protected stairway. The contractors have finished, but we went to inspect the premises today for general H&S reasons, and noticed that the main gas pipe has been fixed in the singe stairway. Its copper and has not been enclosed in any way - I have attached a photo to show you what I mean. Does this cause anyone a concern? I've never seen this before - in the other properties we look after, the gas pipes are enclosed in cupboards and have vents / grills to the outside wall. Is this 'compliant'? I have done a bit of research and found this on a contractors website, but don't fully understand what it is saying, or what the fire hazards are associated with this? Using Building Regulations guidance ADB and BS9999 , gas service and installation pipes or associated meters should not be incorporated within a protected stairway unless the gas installation is in accordance with the requirements for installation and connection set out in Pipelines Safety Regulations 1996 [62] in respect of the service pipes for natural gas and Gas Safety (Installation and Use) Regulations 1998. My worry is that tenants may somehow damage the pipe accidentally. But wondered if anyone had any experience or thoughts which may help guide me in the right direction please?
  6. That's great - thanks very much Tom.
  7. Please can someone tell me if all hatches to lofts / voids which form part of ceilings along means of escape (protected corridors and stairs) need to be fire rated or not? We cannot see anything in ADB Vol 2 which specifically mentions this so any steer would be much appreciated! 🙂
  8. Thank you AnthonyB - much appreciated. I have just spoken to Building Control and they definitely want to inspect - appears the external stair was added circa 1960's due to alterations made within the 9x flats which have access to the external stair (travel distances extended by the looks of things). Thank you so much - glad we asked before the landlord went ahead and started dismantling the stairway!
  9. Please can we ask for some steer on a subject relating to a block of flats we manage - we dont expect anyone to comment on the FRA's judgement, just whether or not you think Building Control should be involved in the final decision... Sorry if there is too much info here, but the situation we have is... 19 privately owned and occupied flats in a building which is ground floor + 7 upper floors and 1 basement. In addition, a roof space room houses water tanks and lift motor equipment. Single internal stairway - protected by FD30s doors at each level. Simultaneous evacuation adopted in 2017 - prior, was a 'stay put'. Communal alarm with AFD (smoke) at each floor level and Manual Call Point next to porters desk / office on ground floor. A heat detector linked to communal fire alarm is also found just inside each flat entrance doorway (approx. 2m distance). One side of the building has an original steel stairway which is accessible from approximately 9 of the flats. The remaining flats have no external stairway. The external stair still has 'FIRE EXIT' signage displayed. The condition of the stair is poor - very rusty. Plus, the facade along the stair is not fully protected. Several glazed apertures are openable. The FRA we had completed in 2021 (February) shows that the assessor feels the external staircase is not needed as the internal stair is protected from fire and smoke for 30-mins. Plus early warning of fire has been introduced since original construction. Landlord is obviously delighted as he thinks he can get rid of the external stairway and save a fortune in having it repaired (possibly even replaced). Should we / the landlord advise local building authorities of the suggestion of removing the external stairway before we jump in 2 footed and do anything?? Any steer / guidance always appreciated!
  10. Hi all, Quick question - old pub (built 1600's). Timber floors throughout. L1 alarm system was installed in 2010 as compensation for uncertainty on building materials / levels of fire resistance. Separate sleeping accommodation above pub (private flats with own independent entry / exit). Question is, would you expect the basement / beer cellar ceiling to be compartmented?? They have a fire door on ground floor to the cellar, but when you get down in the cellar, the ceiling is riddled with holes to allow pipes and cables to travel up... There is no formal fire strategy which i guess is normal for this type / age of premises. Reason for query is that previous FRA's have always said that the L1 alarm system is adequate to compensate for any defects to compartmentation...new FRA this year states that the cellar must be separated from ground with 60-min fire resistant material. The alarm is interlinked to sounders in the flats above too.
  11. Hi AnthonyB - yes, that sounds a lot more "adjacent" than the 4-5m! 🙂 thanks again for your help.
  12. Well...the MCP in question is approx. 4-5m distance from the emergency exit door....the occupants would have to veer away from the escape route / exit slightly to reach it (thats if they remember its there). My thinking was that it should roughly be arms length (I know everyone's arms are different length so was using 1.5m max distance as a guide) so they could hit it as they escaped?
  13. Meady


    Thank you guys for your honest opinions - really appreciated.
  14. When installing a new Fire Alarm system to BS5839-1, what is the maximum distance allowed between the exit door and the MCP? I have looked at BS5839-1 but cannot find anywhere that states a specific distance (only heights from floor)?
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