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Fire Doors and Accessories

  1. Guest Jessica Melia
    Started by Guest Jessica Melia,

    Hi, just after some advice as the regulations I feel aren’t very clear. We have a 3 storey house built in 2004, all doors bar the interconnecting door from kitchen to living room and bathroom doors are fire doors with self closing chain. I know the self closing chain is no longer a requirement but do we need fire doors on the downstairs doors? It says habitable rooms off the stairwell but doesn’t mention anything about downstairs rooms The stairs end next to the front door so has an exit route. Do the downstairs doors to the living room and to the kitchen (not the interconnecting door) require fire doors or not? Thanks Jess

  2. Started by Nephelim,

    I'm inspecting firedoors where the gap at jamb is so tight you could barely fit a sheet of paper in. The data sheet and the fire test report only mention maximum allowable gaps. BS8214 (9.5.2) says that a typical gap should be 2 mm to 4mm. Is there a minimum allowable gap? Should I accept these doors? Thanks.

  3. Guest Ben
    Started by Guest Ben,

    Hi I am enquiring about an issue I currently have the loft conversion I have recently completed. We have had to adjust the fire doors to work with the pitch of the sloping ceiling. So one side of the doo is cut and say a 42 degree angle from a third of the width of the door. Is there a product you sell or on the market which you could apply to cap the top of the door to reinstate the 30 min requirement again.

    • 42 replies
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  4. Guest scp
    Started by Guest scp,

    Hi. Can anyone advise on the following? In a pre-1991 conversion of 2 flats on the first floor, the doors to flats are 44mm thick and appear solid and in good condition. Do they need to be upgraded with intumescent/smoke seals and a door closer. There is a very low risk of fire in the shared communal area.

    • 0 replies
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  5. Guest All at sea
    Started by Guest All at sea,

    We have bee advised that the gaps around fire doors must be between 2mm and 4mm. Our door frames have rebated intumescent seals fitted on three sides which protrude by around 3mm and the doors gently close against the strips. Doors have been declared high risk as some have a 5mm gap at the trailing edge of the door, even though the door closes against the seal. Is this advice correct and if not what advice would you suggest.

  6. Started by Craig,

    Does existing GWPP glazing which has no visible marking fitted in nominal fire door need to have intumescent seals fitted retrospectively ? I don't understand why an inspector would request this given that the glass isn't marked. If the original glass isn't broken and the beadings are intact and secure then wouldn't this be deemed as a notional door ?

  7. Guest DonnaJon
    Started by Guest DonnaJon,

    Is there any guidance on whether the final exit door should be fit with a closing device?

  8. Guest liam
    Started by Guest liam,

    hello was hoping to get some advise on the below with the new fire safety regulations coming into play earlier this year I've been trying to find information on requirements for maisonette flat entrance doors I have a row of maisonette flats above some ground floor flats that are all accessed via a shared raised open air walkway. under the new regulations i would class this area as a communal space putting them within scope however as these flat entrance doors open onto the elements I'm a bit unsure if fire rated doors are required. just wondering if anyone can clarify what the regulations now require for a building of this design or perhaps people have had…

    • 3 replies
    • 2.8k views
  9. Guest Starks1769
    Started by Guest Starks1769,

    Hi all. At work we have 9 Buildings across the whole of the UK in them we have circa 800 firedoors (healthcare facilities). Fire doors have been neglected somewhat, so here's the quandary. We need them inspected regularly and I know we are looking at a big remediation bill after the first round. My thinking is I employ an independent FD inspector (FDIS and or NAFDI) but one who doesn't do repairs. From this I can tender the remedial to a company that offers 3rd party certification, then do the works. Questions Does this seem sensible, especially the independent (non repairing) approach FDIS or NAFDI Are all 3rd party warranties the same …

    • 4 replies
    • 2.8k views
  10. Started by David N,

    Hello Can anyone confirm the exact situation regarding replacing all Flat Front Doors with FD30s? Is this mandatory? Regards Dave

    • 2 replies
    • 1.8k views
  11. Started by David N,

    Hello, I am writing this post seeking advice on fire doors for Grade 2 listed buildings. I understand the importance of ensuring all fire doors are installed and maintained following the law. However, I have some concerns regarding fire doors in Grade 2 listed buildings. I understand that there may be certain exemptions for fire safety regulations in Grade 2 listed buildings, and I would like to know how these exemptions may affect fire door requirements. Specifically, I would like to seek expert advice on the following questions: What are the specific fire safety regulations that may be exempted in Grade 2 listed buildings? How can I determine whi…

  12. Started by IanS,

    Could you please help me clarify the following. In the communal hallways of a block of flats there are doors with an FD30 certification label on their top edge. The doors then also have intumescent seals and cold smoke brushes set into the door frame. My question is whether that door should be properly referred to as being FD30, FD30(s), upgraded FD30(s) or something else.

    • 1 reply
    • 1.8k views
  13. Started by Pm790,

    Hi, I am a leasehold flat owner. The flat is a purpose-built three storey block and I am on the first floor. Our managing agent has scheduled a visit for somebody to verify the flat entrance doors for fire safety regulations. They have specifically mentioned intumescent strips and door closers. I am not the first owner, but certainly since I’ve been here, there has not been a working door closer. Looking into the door frame, I can see that there is a concealed closer but seems it has never been fitted properly since day one! It is not even as if it has been removed later - there is no recess cut into the frame and it looks to have been painted over fro…

    • 3 replies
    • 2.1k views
  14. Guest Matt
    Started by Guest Matt,

    I'm part of a local charity that has had a number of FD30 doors fitted to existing frames. I'm looking for clarification/guidance on the thickness of the door check stops. At current the carpenter has fitted 19mm thick kiln dried timber. I've seen reference to 25mm stops. I was hoping to find clarification on this subject? Thank you for your time. Regards

  15. Guest Andy
    Started by Guest Andy,

    Found this symbol on a number of fire doors and have been unable to understand the meaning of it. I've asked many people and organisations for help - to know avail. So I'd love to hear what your thoughts are.

  16. Guest Markbo
    Started by Guest Markbo,

    When fitting a 30 minute fire door set into a structural opening how much of a gap can you have between the door frame and the structural opening without compromising the fire integrity.

  17. Started by John W,

    I am replacing the intumescent seals in a small theatre. It seems when they were installed in 1997 the chippy trimmed bits out to accommodate the hinges. I'm unsure if it was acceptable for the intumescent seal to be cut to accomodate door furnature on a FD30 fire door and is it acceptable to replace in the same way. Do I need to 1 - relocate all the hinges to clear the channel for the strip 2 - cut the strip either side of the hinges and fill the channel 3 - trim the new seals in the same way as the old ones. The door sets came from Shapland, I can't find any data about them. **sorry originally posted t…

    • 2 replies
    • 1.9k views
  18. Guest Denisedx
    Started by Guest Denisedx,

    My house was built in 2007 and it has two wooden external doors one in the front and one at the back is this legal is at least one meant to be pvc?

    • 1 reply
    • 1.5k views
  19. Guest Guest
    Started by Guest Guest,

    Hello all, Just after some advice really... we are currently undergoing a loft conversion in a house build in 1952 (ish).. I realise I need FD30 doors however all the door frames (living room kitchen bedrooms etc) are all metallic (2 hinges) approx 35mm deep. Will I have to replace the door frames also.? Maybe not more specific than that. Thanks

  20. Guest Chris
    Started by Guest Chris,

    Hi would anyone know the answers to the following questions about some fire doors in my offices. 1) The corridor double Doors do not close into the frame as I believe there is some air pressure keeping them open. Can the door closer be adjusted to suit or would a more powerful closer be needed. 2) The disabled toilet door seems to be a fire door as it has seals on edges of the door but it doesn’t self close. (No closer on door) Would this need a door closer? 3) The locks/latches on the timber doors are not CE marked but are marked UL. Are these compliant? Thanks in advance for your help.

  21. Guest marc
    Started by Guest marc,

    i have a sapele front door it is light weight and has a cork core is it fire rated

  22. Guest Matt
    Started by Guest Matt,

    I have been working in a care home and the fire doors have acrylic kick plates fitted to them, is there any BS standard where this is acceptable surly this can not right and be in fact a fire hazard.

  23. We have two doors that require a drop down seal to reduce gap at the bottom threshold. The floor slopes meaning a large gap to one side at the threshold. Is there any drop down seals that can be used?

    • 1 reply
    • 3.3k views
  24. Guest Ben
    Started by Guest Ben,

    There is a gap under a fire rated door frame in our office which has finished flooring. The gap is about 25mm on both jambs. Can this be repaired with hardwood or would a new door set be required.

  25. Guest Matt
    Started by Guest Matt,

    Hello, I live in a 2 bed flat in a converted house (total 3 flats). All flats have certified fire door systems to protect the communal area as one flat is in the roof. I plan to rent my flat out and I am unsure of the fire regs governing the other doors in my flat (kitchen, lounge, bedrooms X2) . The kitchen does not have a door. It's noted that the flat is first floor and under 4.5m from the ground maybe around 3m and there is means of escape from both bedrooms onto flat roofs. Any advice on what I do / don't need to do with the internal doors would be welcome. Cheers

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