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Fire Doors and Accessories

  1. Started by JO40,

    I am planning to make my Airing Cupboard twice it's width in my 3 storey home. I either make a double door but that means a double frame. I have 2 24in firedoors etc. then the doors open left and right which takes up part of the landing for escape. OR put up 2 single frames butted/ joined together but both hinged on the left so they would close in the same direction as persons might run down the stairs on the left perhaps pushing past a door still not quiet closed. Generally the right door will have little use as the drying and storage area is on the left side anyway! Thanks.

    • 0 replies
    • 6.6k views
  2. Started by MarkT,

    Good evening, Wanted to check something by the experts at Safe Clinics. A carpenter fitted concealed door closers inside my pannelled doors. After looking at the datasheet it transpires that concealed door closers shouldn't have been installed in them. I have just got off the phone from a BM TRADA certified carpenter who explained that the doors can still be be used. He explained that the chain could be broken or the closer removed and the gap filled in. Does this sound legit? So even though concealed closers have been fitted... the doors can still be compliant? Sounds to good to be true?

  3. Guest Pip
    Started by Guest Pip,

    We have a 3 story house. The top floor is a new extension. We have fire doors- but do they need to be self closing ? And if so any ideas what mechanism is appropriate? They start in price from £4- 120- its a mine field!

    • 3 replies
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  4. Guest James
    Started by Guest James,

    Hi, is this allowed on a fire door and do they still sell them.

  5. Started by jackflanagan,

    Hi, I work as a facilities and plant engineer in the UK. My employer recently had a fire risk assessment carried out throughout the whole site. In this, it was picked up that the fire door hinges were weeping and potentially needed replacing. My question is, how do I know when to replace the hinges and when to just wipe the leaking oil off? Are there any requirements of the hinges and what is checked during the inspection? I have checked and they are grade 7 hinges so are suitable, just have some oil leaking out most likely due to being lubed. Any advice would be greatly appreciated! Jack

  6. Guest Jenna G
    Started by Guest Jenna G,

    Hello! We would like to install a room divider which is not fire rated. I could not find the same design with FD30 therefore I was thinking to do the 3 upgrades below. Would that be sufficient? The door will be installed between the hallway and the living room. 1. Hinges We will have 3 hinges per door 2. Fire Resistant Glazing We will apply glazing to the outside of the door and the frames. 3. Strips Around the Door We will add intumescent strips to both sides and top of the doors Thanks in advance.

  7. Started by MarkT,

    I am having some trouble with some fires doors and am desperate for some qualified advice. I had a carpenter/joiner come to fit some fire doors onto existing - The doors have been fitted and I have noticed after reading up, that the gaps round the edges some are 4 to 6mm. Is this compliant? - I have also noticed also that the joiner has installed a concealed door closer inside 3 x 6 pannelled doors (despite the data sheet stating this is not permitted) . Will this now mean that the door isn't compliant and will have to be changed or can the closer be removed the the gap filled with some kind of fire safe filled? - also could someone also explain in sim…

    • 2 replies
    • 1.5k views
  8. Guest Bobby
    Started by Guest Bobby,

    I'm having a FD30 rated fire door with a self closer put in leading to my attached garage. Does it need a fire rated door frame? If such things exist,or intumescent strips fitted to meet building regs? Thanks!

    • 2 replies
    • 1.6k views
  9. Started by Gordo,

    Hello, I'm looking for some advice regarding replacement of some doors after a burglary. The existing doors have a 25mm rebate but the replacement ones have got around 13mm rebate but I cannot find any information on specifically what size rebate is required. The doors open onto a staircase, if that makes a difference and both openings are made up of 1 door and a bolted half leaf door. Thanks for any assistance

    • 6 replies
    • 11.9k views
  10. Guest Statts
    Started by Guest Statts,

    Hi there, We have to fit a double set of 30 minute fire doors to our new kitchen as it off the hallway by the staircase, and the house has an attic room. However, building control have refused to provide any more information beyond this and I am struggling to understand the requirements of the regulations. We have found two period 30 minute doors (Deanta Kingston) that match the rest in the house and hope to have these fitted using a 30 minute fire rated door lining, hinges, latch and intumescent strip(s). What I am finding difficult to understand is how we keep the doors securely closed without compromising their fire certification. I have manged to find a flush f…

    • 2 replies
    • 2.2k views
  11. Guest Tom
    Started by Guest Tom,

    Can anyone tell me what approved document would have been used for fire safety in 2004? We found a sticker on top of a fire door which has this date on it and would like to know more about regulations around the time of install.

    • 2 replies
    • 1.3k views
  12. Can anyone point to requirement to have a blue mandatory warning sign on residents bedroom doors in care homes that have a swing free device fitted? Is there an exemption on bedroom doors being required to have these under building regulations? Thank You

    • 1 reply
    • 1.5k views
  13. Guest Lenny
    Started by Guest Lenny,

    Hi, Can you install a thumb turn lock in a stairwell door (emergency escape route). I didn’t think you could but some of the staff in the office want the lock installed. There is no lock at door at the moment. So would a push bar be better option?

    • 1 reply
    • 1.3k views
  14. Guest Lizzy
    Started by Guest Lizzy,

    hi, i manage a childrens residential home, for young people with disabilities and behavioural issues. We are having our fire system updated and we’re asked today whether if our Maglock system fails we have a fail safe back up, we have had numerous risk assessments completed and carry out weekly checks on our system and this has never been raised or asked before as it is connected to the mains power. However today we were advised we need green push to release buttons too. Due to the nature of my young people I am concerned that these make them less safe than if they were not in place. Can someone point me in the direction of the regulation which required me to have a…

    • 1 reply
    • 1.3k views
  15. Guest Tom Ferguson
    Started by Guest Tom Ferguson,

    I've just occupied a new building and I have a query about office doors. Most of our doors are solid fire doors but is there a requirement for offices to have a glass strip to assist with office clearances during fire warden checks of the building after an alarm?

    • 4 replies
    • 3.8k views
  16. Guest Sutton Fire
    Started by Guest Sutton Fire,

    I'd like to ask for views on how you go about assessing the above.I'm conscious that the current available guidance sets out that doors incorporating panels are unlikely to be suitably fire resisting (with 44mm core thickness being the recognised acceptable standard). However, I'm seeing an increasing number of panelled timber fire door products, and often come across existing timber panelled doors in a block of flats which are uniform in design and appear to be the original doors. When such doors are in sound condition and also incorporate other features of a fire door assembly which you would expect to see (suitable self closers, fire rated hinges, suitable intumescent …

  17. Guest David
    Started by Guest David,

    Hi, Do all steel doors need to have smoke seals. We have a set of doors at our workplace with no seals. The room has compressed air bottles in it so I would have thought they would be needed.

    • 2 replies
    • 1.4k views
  18. Guest ChristopherWarr
    Started by Guest ChristopherWarr,

    hello I am trying to find out if my front door needs a lock that can be opened without a key in case of a fire. What law do I follow thanks for your help Chris

    • 13 replies
    • 15.3k views
  19. Guest Ben
    Started by Guest Ben,

    Hi, if timber fire doors are being surveyed under the guidance of Bs 8214 what bs standard is used to survey steel doors?

  20. Started by derekgough,

    My name is Derek Gough and I m working as a building control officer. I have numbers of responsibilities like responding to emergency calls to check buildings which have been damaged by fire, bad weather, or due to poor building standards. Working closely with construction workers on planning proposals. Carrying out inspections on site at each stage of the building process. Recently, my manager added one more responsibility to inspect fire doors as per country regulations but I do not have a specific certification. Can anyone suggest me the best institute for fire door inspection?

  21. Started by Hyperion,

    I have read that fire doors with overhead mounted self closers require a minimum of grade 13 hinges. This is due to the increased stress on the hinge. Is this correct?

  22. Guest Dave
    Started by Guest Dave,

    Hi, we have a riser cupboard fire door with smoke seals in our office which is on pivot hinges. Can you tell me what the gap should be under the door? . It seems there is bigger gap where the hinge is. Do you get more tolerance with pivot door hinges?

  23. Guest Jon
    Started by Guest Jon,

    Hi I have a question regarding old fire doors and frames. The building where I work is a place of worship and is open to the public, private members, guest, visitors and has 4 residential flats within. The building is not grade listed and does not have an internal conservation order. The fire doors were installed in 1958 and I believe that they are referred to now as 'notional' doors. The doors themselves are made of solid oak with viewing panels. The types of door are single leaf and double leaf doors (apologies if that is not the correct terminology). At work, we have been debating as to the doors' compliance. The condition of the the 30 doors (majority doub…

    • 1 reply
    • 1.7k views
  24. Guest smdd74
    Started by Guest smdd74,

    Hi, Hoping you could assist with a query re flat entrance doors. The fire risk assessor has advised that ideally, the flat entrance doors in my block of flats should have locks that are 'easily and immediately openable, without the use of a key i.e thumb-turn locks'. Their reasoning for this was that the doors form a necessary part of the escape route for the occupants and thus occupants may be hindered if they cannot access/find their key. I understand that the flat doors are under my responsibility however i was under the impression that only the final exit doors needed to be secured in this way and didnt think this applied to the flat doors themselve…

    • 4 replies
    • 6.1k views
  25. Started by Mr Burns,

    Hi Is it possible to lip the top of the frame to close the gap at the head of the doors to the frame on a nominal door? thanks

    • 3 replies
    • 2.3k views

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