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Fire Doors and Accessories

  1. Guest C Lewis
    Started by Guest C Lewis,

    In a house to flat conversion, where the front doors to each flat (FD30's) are technically internal doors, can I fit a door security chain / bar and if so would this need to be fire rated, as it's inside each flat? I've fitted thumb turn locks to each door, but would like some form of extra security for each tenant if this is allowed. Thanks

    • 3 replies
    • 8.1k views
  2. Started by Cornwall firedoors,

    Just after people’s thoughts, advice etc, we’ve been fitting fd60 firedoors and on the whole attaining a 3mm gap between floor and door, but as nothing is plumb and level in places the gap is bigger and with floors rising as door opens in its closed state the gap can sometimes be over 5mm, drop seals are not an option, is this an allowable gap under the circumstances ?? thanks in advance

    • 4 replies
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  3. Started by MysteryMan,

    Our house has a fire door between the utility room and garage and, at the moment, it has a Perko self-closer fitted. I have seen comments in some places that it is no longer a requirement to have self-closing devices fitted and would like to remove it as the slamming drives me mad. I don't think it would be a safety issues as it is closed 99+% of time and only propped open when bringing the shopping in! Can anyone give me a definitive answer as to when, or not, self-closers need to be fitted to fire doors. Thanks

    • 13 replies
    • 13.6k views
  4. Guest dgs
    Started by Guest dgs,

    Is there a specific tolerance gap between the leaf`s of a FD 30S double door that has a intumescent and some brush seal fitted? any advice much appreciated

    • 1 reply
    • 1.6k views
  5. Started by matt hawthorne,

    Hi I'm new to this forum. Was looking for some advice on Cold smoke seals if possible. Would there be any issue with fitting brush smoke seals onto both sides of a double action legacy door to close the gaps fully? Do you know if Is there any statutory guidance regarding this. Many Thanks Matt

    • 1 reply
    • 1.8k views
  6. Guest Sharon
    Started by Guest Sharon,

    Hello, we have a garage attached to our house (added on prior to our purchase). We have created a shower/toilet room in the rear corner of the garage for use from the garden. There is no access to the house from the garage or shower room. When you enter the garage from the garden there is a door to the left into the shower room and a door straight ahead into the garage. We are being told by building control that the door straight ahead into the garage needs to be a fire door, is this correct? Many thanks

    • 1 reply
    • 1.9k views
  7. Guest Highland Spring
    Started by Guest Highland Spring,

    Hi I have a flat on the 10th floor. The front door to the flat opens onto an open (to the open air) walkway shared by 6 other flats which then leads to an internal common area where the lifts are situated. The door is UPVC. The construction is about 12 years old. The MA says the flat door is not compliant as not a fire door. I was under the impression fire doors were not a requirement when opening into air, but the MA says otherwise. Is this correct. Thanks in anticipation.

    • 2 replies
    • 2.2k views
  8. Guest Marijka
    Started by Guest Marijka,

    Hi I work in a room where there is a fire door in the hall way that makes an awful noise when opening. I think its due to the fire seal. Is it common for fire seals to do this and is there a way to make it better? Thanks

  9. Guest john ohara
    Started by Guest john ohara,

    can you add 30 mm to the bottom of a FD30 fire door

  10. Started by Mike North,

    I have 6 Identical large dinners; the latest building has FD30S double swing doors between the diner and kitchen the rest have FD60S. All were built to 2007 regs. The doors are now at the end of life, can I replace them with · The regulatory requirement is for a FD30 door to be installed. · An FD60 rated door (as installed in 5 of the diners) configure as an FD30 to provide a more robust solution. · All double doors are to installed with A back-check mechanism to stop the over extension of the hinge on opening. Automatic hold-open connected to the fire alarm system with a timed release so that the doors return to the clo…

    • 6 replies
    • 2.7k views
  11. Hi, Ive recently bought a 1920s 4 storey house, and im planning to replace the original pine doors which have been dipped and are falling apart. We are undertaking a general rennovation to the house - replastering, relocating partitions, new roof, windows, basement rennovation etc, but not sure if this all means I have to install firedoors to meet modern regulations. Any advice is welcome!

  12. Guest KDH
    Started by Guest KDH,

    I’m the student studying in UK. Door closer in our new residence make annoying slamming sound. Even if the windows in each room are closed, sound is still too big. I have asked about this issue, and repairman said it is normal, it should be strong to make sure it is closed(all doors are fire doors). I can see latching speed is higher(close faster when it is closed almost). However, I think door closer don’t need to be stronger if it can close door fully, there are no any point to make it stronger. If my idea is wrong, please point it out.

    • 1 reply
    • 1.8k views
  13. Started by gnowad,

    The issue I am having is this as it stands I do not believe the fire doors installed in my property are indeed fire doors, because of their standard of installation. I live in town house, with a floor above 4.5m and therefore it is a requirement for the house to have a compartmentalised staircase to provide a safe escape route in the event of a fire. The building control requirements are for an FD20 door, but no FD20 doors exist as it is impossible to test to. The doors installed are therefore FD30 door leafs, this has been confirmed by the confirmation of a BWF certificate on the top of the leaf and confirmation from Premdor. However thi…

    • 14 replies
    • 19.4k views
  14. Guest Poppy
    Started by Guest Poppy,

    I would like to remove a cat flap which is in my external fire door, how can i do this without buying a new door? Can i fill in the hole and cover with fire resistant covering? Does this even exist? I would appreciate your advice

  15. Guest Julia Hammond
    Started by Guest Julia Hammond,

    Hi, we are fitting a fire door between our garage and our boiler room. (The boiler room is attached to the house and has a back door leading from it; above the garage is a bedroom.) Can we fit an oak threshold beneath the fire door under current regulations so long as the gaps are correct? Thanks for your help.

    • 2 replies
    • 1.9k views
  16. Started by Fly Guy,

    Hi All At what point should the gap between door and frame be taken from? We have doors with square edge frames and square edge doors that meet fine. But then we have Doors (nominal) with a slight round (arris) meeting the frame with a 3mm chamfer on making the gap 6-8mm with the wedge type gauge thingy. one of the carpenters that viewed the job used packers and between the seal and door was 3-5mm gaps. The inspection company have used the wedge method and come to the conclusion the the sizes to the arris and chamfer are the gap sizes but the carpenter has said that if he was to add a lipping on to meet the inspectors dims the doors will bind of foul …

  17. Guest PolFol
    Started by Guest PolFol,

    Based on the last fire risk assessment, I am looking to get the front door on my flat replaced. I would like to ask if it is a requirement that the new fire door that I install is 'signed off'. Or if it is ok to get an installer who can't provide an installation certificate to install it, but will use a certified door and door furniture. I can't find out what the actual official requirements are. Based on what the FRA says, it seems as though as long as the fire door is FD30, it has a self closing device, cold smoke strip and self closer, it meets requirements. Can you please confirm?

    • 2 replies
    • 2.6k views
  18. Guest Janette Geeves
    Started by Guest Janette Geeves,

    Hello we have just brought a second floor flat, a house slit in two. the entrance is our front door opening to the street and stairs going up to a door that opens onto the landing. do we need a fire door? many thanks janette

  19. Started by Bev,

    Please can you advise am I allowed to add a knocker to my fire door? A post box and handle have already been added but my housing association say not allowed to because it will compromise the fire ?

  20. Started by jkerr,

    Hello Thanks in advance for any help. I need to fit intumescent strips and smoke seals to my doors. 1. My first question, regarding the max 3mm gap allowed around the sides and top of the door. Is this the gap between the door and frame not including any space that is closed by fitting seals/strip? Or, if, when the seal and strips are fitted, and they contact the frame, does this constitute the gap that needs to be closed (ie it would be <3mm)? 2. Depending on the answer above, how can i reduce the gap between the doors and frame? Can I build out the trims on the doors or add to the frame? 2. Before looking on the site, I had assumed that I wou…

    • 10 replies
    • 11.4k views
  21. Guest Paula
    Started by Guest Paula,

    My social housing landlord have recently installed fire doors. There are 6 flats in a Victorian house conversion. I have been expressing my concerns and getting nowhere. Firstly the original doors were timber ( not sure if they were fire doors as they were at least 21 years old) within a timber frame, closed on it own etc. The new ones are wood with a wooden frame but the frames have been screwed in with large screws with all the screws exposed. I have never seen door Installed this way. When I asked the fitters why there were screws and why they were exposed they said that’s how doors are now and they would get plastic caps to cover them. I also noticed that…

  22. Started by Greenn424,

    I have a building which is an 1970/60 military tower, now office and accommodation block.T he doors are original and are labelled fire doors. There is no proof these are fire doors. No O&M or fire door certs Door hinges are not CE or fire marked, But have fire seals and door closures. can we replace hinges and repairs or do these have to be replaced and under what regs or legislation. as owner of building is stating there are fine as they were fitted like that.

  23. Guest Nick
    Started by Guest Nick,

    Good afternoon, i have a 9 story old military building with doors that labelled fire doors. they were installed in 19760-70s. There is no O&M manual nor fire certs. where do we stand. how do we maintain these as fire doors ( no fie door hinges but seals are on them). or do they need to be replaced and under what legislation. As they would have been install under crown amenity.

  24. Started by C Jones,

    Hello. Currently working on residential property which require remedial works to the doors including lippings/frame adjustments. In some cases we’ve need to add a lipping to the head of the doors 8mm hardwood, Glued and pinned is this acceptable? We’ve done this including lipping bottoms to reduce gaps without causing to much damage to the frame works and property. These are non certified doors obviously due to the age and works being carried out.

  25. Guest John P

    I live as owner occupier (long leaseholder) in a managed block of flats. The block has a communal fire alarm system with sounders in the flats and the communal areas. I want to fit an ADO to my flat entrance door (which is a fire door) for disability purposes. (I am wheelchair dependent for my mobility). The ADO installation includes a 48hr battery back up in case of mains power failure. Is it a requirement that the ADO is connected to the communal fire alarm system? As I understand it, this would simply "convert" the door to normal manual operation when the fire alarm sounds.

    • 0 replies
    • 1.6k views

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