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Fire Doors and Accessories

  1. Started by ship69,

    Hello I am new here. We need some door closers for a large old holiday house let in Scotland. I spoke to a techie at Dorma who claims that nobody anywhere makes a closer that meets our requirements! But is he correct? Our thinking so far: What we want is a door closer that you barely know is there but it does close the door for you. We want is: A). QUIETNESS - The door needs to close as quietly as possible B). SLOW CLOSING (AUTOMATIC) - The door needs to close the door only very slowly on it's own. C) FAST OPENING & CLOSING (MANUAL) - The door needs to both open and close fast if the users push it manually. D). HIDDEN - Ideally the clos…

    • 3 replies
    • 5k views
  2. Guest JaniceHutto
    Started by Guest JaniceHutto,

    Is there a standard height that a sticker should be at on a fire door?

    • 2 replies
    • 15.2k views
  3. Does anyone know if updating the Doorset of an old fire door is classed as a 'material alteration' under part B of the building regs? Example of this might be adding a door closer and intumescent strips to the door frame.

    • 2 replies
    • 3.7k views
  4. Guest RobPark
    Started by Guest RobPark,

    On the various power sizes in table 1 of BS EN 1154 for closing moment Nm max. parameters. Where is this moment taken on the door? i.e. central or at the end. Kind regards.

    • 3 replies
    • 7.8k views
  5. Guest David lomas
    Started by Guest David lomas,

    Hi I'm wondering if I can fit a night latch to a flat front door as it's a fire door also do I need a door closer as it isn't a final exit door ?

  6. Guest Sandy Taylor
    Started by Guest Sandy Taylor,

    Hi, I live in a ground floor of purpose built flats which is one of 4 (2 ground & 2 upstairs). The other flats have upvc front doors. My front door is the original one from when the flats were built in the 60's and is in desperate need of replacing. However, the management company tell me that I have to have a 30 minute fire door. As I live on the ground floor and given that no one else have fire doors, is this the case? Is there a particular professional that I can contact to assess the situation? Thanking you for your help

  7. Guest CherylH
    Started by Guest CherylH,

    Hi I have a double door as entrance between kitchen and hallway that I believe needs to be fire doors, do I have to buy a 'double door' frame and kit (note these are in excess of 1k) or can I buy two fire doors and fit with the intumescent door strips? Thanks Cheryl

  8. Guest Ian.m.
    Started by Guest Ian.m.,

    Hello, i would like to ask a question about the construction of fd30 doors, why is there only an allowance of 5-8mm genualy to be able to trim off the bottom? I am a carpenter/joiner with 26 years behind me in fitting doors. In that time its a novelty to fit a house out with new doors and not trim for thick carpet-hard wood ect. would it be that difficult to increase the solid timber at the base of a fire door to give 25mm tolerance to cut. For a start an fd30 frame is normally around 5mm thicker than a standard frame so your already on a loser and genuraly the frame is tight to the lintel. Are the companies that make fire doors expecting clients to pa…

    • 3 replies
    • 5.3k views
  9. Guest Adrian S
    Started by Guest Adrian S,

    Hi, I live in a block of flats and we have a loft hatch along the escape route. The resident committee and I were wondering if we need it to be fire rated? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Adrian

    • 1 reply
    • 2.3k views
  10. Guest James Balcombe
    Started by Guest James Balcombe,

    Hi, I am a director of an RTM company which represents a block of flats set in a grade 2 listed Georgian building built in the 1700s. The building was converted into 7 flats around 1990 and spans over 3 floors. We employ a managing agent to take care of the day to day running of the building and they refer back to us for any important decisions. We recently had an FRA conducted which recommended that each flat entrance door is replaced by a 30 minute fire door. Our agent wants to send to legal notices to each leaseholder saying that there doors are required to be replaced to meet this new standard and enforcement action will be taken for non-compliance. They wa…

    • 7 replies
    • 5.1k views
  11. Guest C Brawn
    Started by Guest C Brawn,

    New to the forums and have a quick question. In a building that I work in there is a fire door which is 1 x full leaf and 1 x half leaf. Where the doors meet when shut there are 2 x gaps (top and bottom 20cm approx in length). Both edges of the door are fitted with smoke seals etc; however the gaps mentioned are where the locking devices are located on the sides of the door and are significantly more than the 3mm required, thus in my opinion making the door relatively useless? Door 1 Door 2 Door 3

  12. Guest PeterDoh
    Started by Guest PeterDoh,

    Hello, I have a query about fire door standards for a front door, from an open living room kitchen on the ground floor. Do these typically have to be FD30 or FD30s? Where there is an egress escape route above a door or window, what minimum standards should the door or window below the escape route satisfy? Many thanks, Peter

    • 1 reply
    • 2.6k views
  13. Guest MCuthbert
    Started by Guest MCuthbert,

    Dear Sirs/Madam, Would you be able to tell me if one can use pieces of felt (felt pads) on corners of frame to allow a fire door to close quietly. I should much appreciate your advice. Should you be unable to help could you advise me where to get this information. Thanking you for your kind co-operation. M. Cuthbert

    • 1 reply
    • 3.1k views
  14. Guest Nicola

    I live in a 3 storey town house with an integral garage. I am considering a garage conversion to a sitting area. Can I change the existing fire doors on the ground floor to normal doors with glass windows to bring light into the ground floor.

  15. Guest LauraZol
    Started by Guest LauraZol,

    Hello, we're a carpentry contracting firm who provide labour only works, including installation of timber fire doors. We've been advised by the main contractor on one of our jobs that we need to provide certification regarding fire mastic. No one really knows what certification we need, including our H&Safety consultant and the main contractor! Please can someone contact us to advise? Kind regards, Laura

  16. Guest Simon
    Started by Guest Simon,

    I have beens asked to replace a fd30 double vision 16g fire door, this door is part of a set if double doors, am i allowed to replace just one door or do I need to replace both?

  17. Guest EddieMCK
    Started by Guest EddieMCK,

    Hi, A contractor has installed a 20mm wide groove in the door frame head for the intumescent smoke seal, whilst on the jambs it's only 10mm. We only require a 30 minute fire rating so I thought 10mm was acceptable on jambs and head. However they have said new regulation state that doors over 2040mm high must have a 20mm wide groove? Is this correct? Many thanks, Eddie

    • 1 reply
    • 2.5k views
  18. Guest Robert Fisher
    Started by Guest Robert Fisher,

    We have moved into a three storey town house, is it a legal requirement for all internal doors to have door closures fitted.

    • 2 replies
    • 6.4k views
  19. Guest TGrace
    Started by Guest TGrace,

    Hi, I have been asked if our maintenance team can retrofit a fire resistant viewing panel within a solid fire door. I have said it is possible but only by an approved installer. They have now asked me to substantiate my statement with a reference to a standard or guidance note. Can you assist me, please?

  20. Started by Gary Wicks,

    I have a question regarding Fire Doors and Smoke Detection. When to fit smoke seals to a fire door and when to fit an additional smoke detector? As we know smoke alarms are activated when they detect smoke, but what happens if that flow of smoke is prevented by a fire door with cold smoke seals? As an example there are a number of fire alarm designs that have smoke detection in the escape routes, some rooms immediately off the escape route may have detection and some may not, but the rooms could all be fitted with fire doors. If a fire breaks out in a room with no detection the door to the escape rout could prevent the travel of smoke to the nearest detector whi…

    • 1 reply
    • 2.8k views
  21. Guest SRS
    Started by Guest SRS,

    Our company specialises in Damp Proofing, but one of our Clients has asked us to complete the following: Provide combined intumescent strips and smoke seals Provide self-closers Provide seals to doors were there are none at this time Investigate and provide fire/smoke seals to electrical cupboards as required Provide cold smoke seals to various Provide upgrade of all flat entrance doors to ensure they have appropriate fire and smoke seals, closers and fire rated glass Provide smoke seals to main doors to stairwells as not fire rated/fire sealed and risk to communal evacuation in event of fire Ensure that self closing device…

    • 1 reply
    • 2.3k views
  22. Guest MichelleD
    Started by Guest MichelleD,

    With reference to EN 1634-1, is it possible to applied uninsulated fire rated glass for fire door assesmblies? Are there any size limits for glazing of fire door assemblies complied with EN 1634-1?

    • 3 replies
    • 5.6k views
  23. Guest Jeremy
    Started by Guest Jeremy,

    Hi there. I am renovating a house and as part of that, the kitchen will be open plan in the same area as the means of exit. As such I need to add egress to windows, smoke detectors and upgrade the doors to fire doors. The house has 2'6" doors and frames (which I believe are inch thick timber). However, if I want to fit a fire door frame, I'm looking at at least 30mm thick timber. Fire doors are pretty standard sizes (i'm looking at 1981 x 762) but with the opening I have in the brick wall, I would need to trim the door down more than the 4mm allowed in the specs. What should I do? I can't believe I am the first person to upgrade door sets in a renovatio…

  24. Guest Christina V
    Started by Guest Christina V,

    Hello there! I'm trying to establish whether I can apply lead to a fire rated glass. Is that possible. Many thanks, Christina

  25. Started by Joao Kilandamoko,

    Hi there, I am an HES Emergency Response Specialist, My colleagues from the Maintenance Team and SCM use to perform on their daily basis, the maintenance of the Generator located beside one of our Office Exit doors and mostly that exit door is used as normal door during the maintenance of the generator. The reason advanced by both team (SCM and Maintenance) by using the emergency exit door is due to the distance separating the Generator area to the main entrance of the office. My question is to know if it is illegal to use the emergency exit door as normal service door? If the answer is yes, so what should be the additional precautions to be taken while the door is …

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