Fire Doors and Accessories

Can someone tell me what the requirements of dorgards are please, these are designed to listen for the audible fire alarm i know but what happens if the fire alarm fails? should these devises be wired in to the electric mains and close automatically? I come across a lot of these that are not wired directly to the system

Hi, I have been advised that the door to the oil-fired boiler cupboard should be a fire door, in addition there is insufficient ventilation for the boiler. I initially bought one of these: http://www.diy.com/departments/6-panel-primed-woodgrain-unglazed-internal-fire-door-h1981mm-w686mm/73552_BQ.prd I have already bought an intumescent fire grill from Safelincs (which is a fraction thicker than the 35mm of the door, but I hope the fascia grills will compensate for that). My question... is this door suitable to have a fire grill installed? I ask as my father in-law made quite a show of telling me I don't know what I'm doing... the contents of the door w…

Hi I've had a letter from the council saying they want a certificate for my front door. i cant see any obvious label on it. It's solid wood 44mm thick, and has 3 sets of hinges, it was here when i bought the property so i've no way of knowing. How do I obtain a fire certificate, could you please help? Thanks in advance

I live in a victorian block of flats and we are considering replacing our individual front doors with new fire doors. However, one resident has asked about the likely fire resistent properties of the existing doors. Whilst we know that a current door would not give full fire protection, even with suitable replacement letterbox, self-closing mechanism and intumescent seals being added, would it be possible to roughly estimate the possible fire safety properties of our current doors? Would they give, say, 60% of the protection that a new fire door would provide? The doors are 44cm thick at most, other than the panels, and are the original victorian ones. I read that ot…

I would be grateful for some help. My student son and his flat mates have been charged the cost of replacing a fire door in the accommodation, total about £800. The damage is two or three tiny chips on the surface coating (attached) Is the University correct that these chip represent a significant compromise of effectiveness? Is it possible to simply repair/patch the coating? Or is the surface veneer merely a decorative facing not part of the fire resistance ? Having worked in the NHS for 39 years I suspect the decision may have been made by a non expert erring on the side of over caution, rather than a fully trained professional. Any …

Hi there, quick query. Is there a document that can advise on what doors should be a fire door. In particular, I would like to know if all kitchen doors need to be fire doors in non-domestic properties? Just a general question, not based on any particular building so there's no fire risk assessment to refer too. Thanks for your help all. Digger

Hi, Apologies if this isn't the right forum for such a message, but I need some advice on whether it is advisable or legal to cover an FD30 door with a decorative laminate covering? A client has requested this for a residential property within a set of flats. The laminates are not oil based, they are generally made from compacted paper. Fitting would otherwise be as standard with intumescent strips and paper. If you can help shed any light on this I would appreciate your help, Kind regards, David

How often should fire doors be checked in an industrial unit?

Hi folks, I am hoping to pick some brains of you knowledgeable fire safety guys. I am a carpenter and have been asked to price to replace a few fire doors in a 1960's care home for residents with dementia. Upon my first assessment of the place I noticed 95% of the fire doors that were fitted had been altered to turn them into fire doors/frames. What I mean by altered is the old 1960s 35mm door frames had been used to swing 44mm fire doors, so I'm guessing the density of the softwood alone isn't correct. There are a lot that have chunks of wood missing from both frame and the door so don't actually seal properly, the doors have been routered out and intumesc…

Checking all the fire doors throughout our building some have screws missing, do we need fire rated screws as well as hinges?

May I ask for some advice? One of our managers wants to stick a vinyl laminated poster to a fire door, for decoration. The vinyl is B1 rated but as the poster is A3 size I am not sure whether to approve this.

Hi Guys what is the minimum spec for fire door self closers My local council advised on bsn1134:1997. But I have seen self closers with this spec BS EN 1634 or Are they both fine, are are is there a big difference? My tenants don't really want a the overhead style ideally they want something less obstrusive like a perko. The prices vary greatly . I have seen some chain style perkos for £15-£135. I am really confused as to the above standards are they both fine?

If a company comes to fit a door in a flat are the legally required to advise leaseholder in a flat about complying with building regs and ie that door must be fire door compliant? assuming so but can anyone advise or point to authority, many thanks

I wondered if there was legislation to suggest that fire door closers should be fixed to the inside of a door rather than the outside. I have had a closer fixed to my door on the outside. I have not seen this before so I wondered if this is the correct fitting. I am on the 22nd floor of a tower block and my door leads into the communal hallway. I was also concerned that this may allow someone to prevent me from opening the door from the inside (unlikely- but a possibility).

Can you please advise me of the following. Your website states that "Fire doors will have automatic closing devices (fire door closers) fitted. " but is this talking about compartmentation doors like flat entrance doors or does it include bedroom doors to flats, as Building Control state that perecos are not required on bedroom doors, even ones that open onto a 30min protected hallway withing the flat. Can you help clarify please. Dave

Hello, I am trying to ascertain the fire rating for fire doors in our factory (large steel doors with counterbalance arrangement and fusible link). Doors were manufactured in 1970 by G.Brady & Co. Ltd. Name plate present on door states that fire door, fittings and frame conforms to the ‘Fire Offices’ Committee Specification 2’ Do you know what the above spec equates to in terms of fire rating? Much appreciate any help you can provide in relation to this matter. Yours sincerely, Declan

Dear Forum Could you please help me as I'm stuck. We've just undertaken a loft conversion necessitating fire doors. Our local council is the London Borough of Richmond upon Thames. I spoke to a door manufacturer today following an enquiry on their 4 panel door range. The advice I received was: The max trim off our doors is: 10mm off each rail and also the bottom of the door. 3mm off the top. Most fire door (FD30) sizes come as either: 1981 x 762 x 44mm / 1981 x 610 x 44mm / 1981 x 813 x 44mm. The fire door sizes we need are as follows: Top floor: …

Hello, I need to confirm some information I have read regarding fire doors in blocks of high rise flats and was hoping you could get back to me as soon as possible please. Could you please confirm if all fire doors/front doors to individual flats have to have a self closing device to make sure these fire doors shut to prevent fire from spreading and, if so, what that rule is and where I can find this, when this rule came into being and what are the possible repercussions? Also, do the internal doors of the flat need to have fire doors and if so, where, when this rule came into being, etc? Have all fire doors got to have the product/fire door code on the top of the f…

Working in local authority ,following Grenfell the plan is two upgrade to fd60 doors on all high rise flats.We already have historical problems with residents removing self closers ,maintenance and certification of older doors.The benchmark guidance is FD30s ,is FD60 the right way forward?

Hi, We have recently had a fire risk assessment and the recommendation was that we need to upgrade our existing fire doors and electrical intake cupboard doors (they all need cold smoke seals and intumescent strips). Can we use a local experienced joiner to do this remedial work even though he hasn't got a third party fire safety certificate. The report says we need to employ a "Competent contractor"

I wonder if you can help me? I am helping with the interiors on a B&B pub. We are thinking of changing all the doors. Do the doors to the rooms need to be fire doors? Also do the ensuite bathroom doors need to be fire doors? It would be very helpful if you could give me information on this. Many thanks, Hannah

I live in a ground floor flat and attached is another flat where their kitchen is on the ground floor (behind my bedroom wall) with their living accommodation upstairs. There is a connecting door which connects the 2 flats just outside our bathroom and access corridor and at the bottom of the stairs of next door flat opposite their kitchen entrance. This has been designated as a Fire Door by our Landlord but it is not 'fit for purpose' in my opinion. It is not properly sealed for smoke ingress in to my flat (no prevention) as I can see lights on next door through the door frame and anyway it is always kept permanently locked. What I need is a legally backed argument where…

Hi there, I hope you will be able to answer my question, but not to worry if not. I have become a tenant in a flat which is maintained by a housing association, and they have said that all doors in the flat (i.e. not just the front door, but the individual doors on each room) are fire doors. However, when I asked them to which FD standard (so I could know how long they would withstand a fire), they said they didn't know. As a result, I'm not sure I trust whether these are fire doors. On top of the doors, there is some black writing printed on. It reads: 240910 K2152167 23138 P6 PLUS 826 FS. Does this confirm that they are fire doors? I can see no other visible si…

I have a barn conversion with solid internal fire doors rated at 30!mins. My question is if I retro fitted 4 glass panels in each as shaker style would it preserve its fire integrity? Regards DD

Is there a time limit from when a housing association has been advised to replace the electric riser doors to fire rates doors before the insurance policy will be null & void.