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Fire Risk Assessments

  1. Started by maria,

    Hi, All I need to measure the travel distance in the hotel from the room to the nearest available final exit. the distance from the corner of the room is 10 meters then the distance from the door room to the nearest available final exit is 18 meters How do I measure it ? do I include or exclude the distance in the bedroom Thank you in advance

    • 6 replies
    • 4.7k views
  2. Started by maria,

    Hi, All I need interim measures till the issues are resolved for lack of the fire detection system lack of staff training lack of emergency lights Thank You In advance

  3. Started by Paul B,

    Hi All Following a fire risk assessment, a shop owner has to fit a sounder linked to his alarm system to warn tenants in a flat above his shop of a fire in the shop. Who is responsible to pay for the work? The shop owner? The tenant? The building owner (owner of the flat)?

    • 2 replies
    • 1.4k views
  4. Started by LK5457,

    Hi, hoping someone can help. I am the sole freeholder of a Georgian property that was converted into 4 apartments in the 1940's. Only mine and one other apartment share a communal hallway and flight of stairs to our own front doors. I don't own any of the other properties. Some beautiful original features like the front door to the communal hallway and an internal glass lobby. Really don't want to have to replace or remove these lovely features. When I acquired my apartment the entire Freehold came with it so I am the responsible person for communal areas. What fire risk guidelines do I need to follow for a property of this age, 1750's? It has ne…

    • 2 replies
    • 1.5k views
  5. Guest Kittyg80
    Started by Guest Kittyg80,

    We just had a FRA done on the communal area of a converted Victorian property. One of the recommendations was to get the main door of the building (not internal fire door) checked for compliance. When I asked about this, it was mentioned that we would need to replace or cover all the original glass in and around the door. Does anyone know what the regulations are for final exit doors if they don’t need to be fire doors? I can’t find anything about this online. Except that they should not have a key to open. We are in the middle of selling our flat and we’re worried that trying to get this sorted will delay everything. Thanks! Kitty

    • 0 replies
    • 1.3k views
  6. Guest Nicholas bell
    Started by Guest Nicholas bell,

    I have been told by the council that I have to change my front door under the regulatory reform ( fire safety) order 2005 and £1300 for the pleasure of doing so. I own a leasehold flat in this configuration. Two flats up and down It's my understanding that because I don't have a lobby or a sealed communal area that I'm not legally required to. Also The Order applies to almost all buildings, places and structures other than individual private homes – that's individual flats in a block or family homes. Is this correct. Can someone clarify for me so i can return an email with clarification. Many thanks

    • 0 replies
    • 1.3k views
  7. Started by AdamR,

    Understanding that a room with only one exit should be limited to 60 ppl, I wondered if this also applied to outdoor areas? E.g. an open air courtyard or garden in a pub with only one exit - would this still be limited to 60? Or as it's open air, could the capacity be higher?

    • 0 replies
    • 1.5k views
  8. Started by AndyF,

    I have a couple of questions about false/suspended ceilings in escape routes. Regarding a 30 min protected escape route, how can you tell if a suspended ceiling is FR30? and if it is, why would you need to check above for a breach from, for example, a room off the corridor into the corridor? (with this room also having a FR SC) I've added the picture for clarity and the space above the ceiling is less than 800mm. Any info on suspended ceilings would be helpful, TIA.

    • 8 replies
    • 5.4k views
  9. Guest SuzieD
    Started by Guest SuzieD,

    Hello, I'm after some advice - I am opening a brow bar in a shopping centre and I've been asked to provide some safety info for my brow chairs, I have asked my chair supplier to provide this and they have told me they cannot provide certifictes as the chairs are not tested to british safety standards. Is it correct that for beauty chairs there is no legal requirement for it to meet any safety standards? Thank you

    • 1 reply
    • 1.3k views
  10. Started by Mike North,

    I have just received as FRA where on of the questions raised by the Risk Assessor is Confirm that the cladding meets B-s3, d2 rating. The cladding is ship lapped pine affixed internally to the ceiling of a single story building some 25 years old and the OEMs have been lost. The question is how without taking a sample off the ceiling do I prove it conforms to the rating?

    • 1 reply
    • 1.5k views
  11. Guest Ian Mac

    The new` Fire safety (England) Regulations 2022' state (or seem to infer) that `The walls and floors that separate any domestic premises from other domestic premises' should be considered in all FRA's going forward for flats. Most FR assessors already consider fire doors, external walls and balconies anyway to my knowledge. How are we expected to comply with this on say a Type 1 FRA on a small 2 or 3 storey block of flats without getting access to flats and taking up carpets etc. Would really appreciate some advice here because all the Fire Officers I've asked haven't come back to me on it.

    • 0 replies
    • 1.1k views
  12. Guest Alli

    Which internal doors in a block of flats need to have door closures on them in order for the block to be fire compliant?

    • 0 replies
    • 1.1k views
  13. Started by scp,

    Hi. Does an electrical room/enclosure of a small commercial premises containing the main fuse box, meters, and distribution board, etc need to be in a fire-rated enclosure or would it be better to place a smoke alarm adjacent to it? The enclosure is on the first floor that only has a staircase up to it, there is nothing else on this level.

    • 0 replies
    • 8.2k views
  14. My specific enquiry relates to SOUNDMAT 3 Plus for a domestic dwelling with wooden tongue & groove plank floors - for a bedroom above a living room. Basically to retro-install below carpet/in place of carpet underlay in the bedroom so as to improve reduction of sounds transmitted up from the living room into the bedroom above. The datasheet/brochure for this product https://irp.cdn-website.com/28aa4e38/files/uploaded/ProSound SoundMat 3 Plus Product Brochure_A7AE4q29QbuNSAsjJRWB.pdf offers this on fire rating: "Fire - 0 burn rate Barrier mat: (top and bottom layer) Flammability (FMVSS 302) : Zero burn rate Service temperature: <90°C (continuous…

  15. Started by scp,

    Hi. Does anyone know the regulation for fixed electrical testing in a business. Does it need to be done every 5 years the same as in a communal area in a flat?

    • 0 replies
    • 4k views
  16. Started by scp,

    Hi. Would a low-risk detached commercial building of approx 2400 sq feet with 3 separate businesses of approx 800 sq ft each need emergency lights and or an alram system fitted. Each individual unit has sufficient fire stopping between units and a maximum of 3 employees. Housekeeping is good in each unit, there are no dangerous substances in the units, no cooking is done,no hot works processes or high-risk activities are carried out at all. Each separate unit has 2 final exit doors.

    • 0 replies
    • 9.7k views
  17. Started by scp,

    Hi Is a nominal type Fire door which is at least 44 mm thick still legal on an apartment front door in a communal area if it is good condition. Do you need to retrofit it with a door closer and intumescent / smoke seals or can it be used without them.

    • 2 replies
    • 16.7k views
  18. Started by scp,

    Hi. Can anyone give me some general guidance? What does a 4-story building with one 1 bedroomed apartment on each floor need regarding fire doors, alarm system and emergency lights. The building is approx 100 years old and was converted pre-1991. It currently has a battery smoke alarm on each communal level, no emergency lights at all, and the flat doors are 45 mm thick but have no self-closures or intumescent strips fitted. I know a fire risk Assessment will be needed, but can anyone give me any general advice on the minimum works to be done to bring it up to current regulations?

    • 4 replies
    • 7.1k views
  19. Started by scp,

    Will a detached single-story commercial unit of approximately 2400 sq ft split into 3 units each about 800 sq feet need an individual fire risk assessment for each tenant, or can the building as a whole be done in one assessment? The building is owned by one person.

    • 2 replies
    • 8.7k views
  20. Guest Jane
    Started by Guest Jane,

    I live in a top floor Victorian conversion of 4 flats which pre date 1991 Building Regs - basement, ground, floor 1 and floor 2. All flats have their own external entrance. There is an open concrete staircase which leads to the flats on floor 1 consisting of 2 flights (10 steps each) and another 2 flights to my external door. A FRA was undertaken in 2021 and it did not mention escape routes or fire doors. Does the building need a new FRA? Does the external door on Floor 1 need to be a fire door as it is necessary to pass it to leave the building? Does my door need to be a fire door? Does the freeholder need to provide information about fire safety and an evacuation plan? …

    • 2 replies
    • 1.4k views
  21. Started by scp,

    Hi. If a ground floor commercial property also owns and lets out a first floor flat above, will the ground floor commercial property and the first floor flat both need a fire risk assessment. The flat has its own entrance.

    • 2 replies
    • 6.4k views
  22. Started by dst,

    do they have to be registered

    • 1 reply
    • 1.8k views
  23. Started by scp,

    I have a detached property that has been converted into 2 apartments, one on the ground floor and one on the first floor. The g/f lobby area measures approximately 2 metres x 1 metre and contains both the entrance doors. The left-hand door leads straight into the g/f apartment and the right door leads up the stairs into the first-floor apartment. The g/f apartment has an additional 2 exit doors into the rear and side of the garden, the top floor apartment only has the one front exit door. Should the front doors into the apartments be Fire doors?

    • 4 replies
    • 10k views
  24. Hi all I live in a standard 3 story (ground, 1st 2nd floor) residential conversion with 3 flats and a basement flat. The communal area currently has emergency lighting and a mains powered smoke alarm on the entrance floor and first floor, together with appropriate signage (which is a bit OTT considering it is obvious that the fire exit is the front door!) We have had a new fire risk assessment done and it is recommending two things (copied from report): 1. These flats pre-date the relevant Building Regulations standards. A BS5839 Part 6 Category LD3 domestic fire detection and warning system is provided within the common areas of the premises. In addi…

  25. Started by AdamR,

    Hi there, I have 2 short questions related to FRA's: 1. With the Home Office guides suggesting 60 min fire separation between basement and GF, I just wondered what the rationale was behind this requirement? 2. Where elevator doors open onto a protected escape route - how can you tell that the doors are fire rated? Similarly, would you expect kitchen dumb-waiters that pass between levels to typically have fire-rated doors? Thanks

    • 0 replies
    • 1.8k views

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