Everything posted by AnthonyB
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Fire protection for meter cupboard locared under staircase
https://envirograf.com/ do such products, it depends on the surface you are treating and the performance needed as to if there is a viable product.
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T Clark Builders
The s suffix on FD30s simply means the door has a cold smoke seal (usually a rubber fin or brush) as well as an intumescent strip so in the broadest terms if you've used a combined seal as described it would be an FD30S
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Responsible Person
The employer remains the Responsible Person in law. You sound like you are being asked to be a Competent Person to assist the Responsible Person. Your employer remains legally liable, although other individuals can also be liable if a matter under their control was inadequately dealt with. For example there have been two separate care homes convicted over the years for fire safety issues where in addition to the employer/body corporate being convicted in addition in one case a fire alarm engineer and in another a care home manager were both convicted for their part in the offences.
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Fire Doors and Closing Devices
As you are in Scotland the Scottish Technical Standards apply, but certainly in England & Wales it used to be a requirement for these closers to be fitted as standard even in private dwellings, not just rentals, but as everyone just disabled them they changed the requirement to only apply to things such as flat front doors, doors from garages into dwellings etc.
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Office Door thumb turn cylinder
You won't find it as Building Regulations are functional and only give broad aims, as does the Fire Safety Order under which the relevant clause is: (f)emergency doors must not be so locked or fastened that they cannot be easily and immediately opened by any person who may require to use them in an emergency; A good fire risk assessment would identify that in the situation you describe an escape mortice deadlock would meet the requirements of Article 14 (2)(f) of the Order
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Which way should a fire exit door swing?
A correctly installed Sheltered Housing fire alarm system should not be heard in the flats, also it shouldn't be going off that often and left running for as long. It appears there is inadequate fire safety management of your premises and I would suggest that if the management aren't dealing with it you contact your local fire service's enforcement team (not your local station or community fire safety team) to investigate for you.
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Flats with swimming pool in basement
It should be, if built correctly, in a different fire compartment from the flats so it shouldn't matter if there is a fire there, the flats don't need to know in line with stay put principles. Full evacuation is a last resort in residential and I would be reluctant to extend the system for this unless it was the only viable option...after all in reality it doesn't work as well as people think.
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Fire doors in cafe
Without seeing the premises or at least plans it's difficult, but in smaller cafes, especially without full kitchens (& so no high risk frying), there is often no need for fire doors or fire resisting partitions. Simple starter guidance for small premises is here: https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/14879/making-your-premises-safe-short-guide.pdf
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How many fire exits do we need?
If it's a finished floor height of 11m plus then you should have access to both exits, which if partitioned after current building regulations came into being shouldn't go through another tenants space (it did used to be accepted)
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Flats with swimming pool in basement
Very weird. I'd expect the pool and associated ancillary accommodation to operate full evacuation and so have at least the L5/M type set up it seems to have, but the actual flats I'd expect only to have detectors to the common areas if there are smoke vents, or the common overkill of smokes, sounders, call points. I don't suppose anyone can dig out the original design fire strategy?
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Door closure requirement for selling flat
Current building regulations removed the requirement for internal doors to have closers so they are OK, but it was incorrect to remove the front door closer and you will need to put that back.
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Slave fire doors
If it's got it's own closer rather than just being bolted then that usually is a good indicator that the whole width of both doors was required for escape at the time of installation based on the occupancy numbers, discounting of exits etc. as oppose to just for floor moves. If your Means of Escape calculations, done correctly, indicate you only need the main leaf and you want to keep the quarter bolted then you should be OK
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What certification is needed to be allowed to install fire doors?
Yes, you need to be able to demonstrate competency - with up to 52 individual points to correctly check some form of training is usually in order!
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Fire Door Signage on Double Doors
Technically both, but I'd not get too worried if the one with a lock in was the only one signed. For the cost you might as well do it on both and be belt and braces.
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Fire Door Rebate dimensions
The inch rebate harks back to the days of fire doors before the introduction of intumescent strips and cold smoke seals and isn't usually needed on a door with such items fitted. Manufacturers instructions should be followed and it should be noted that a tested rated doorset includes the frame as well as the door so care needs to be taken with a new door in an existing frame. The fire door specialists on here will give a more detailed response.
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Fire door in children's area
Are the children to be supervised?
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No risk in communal area
Because flats are private dwellings and the historical approach legally has been for almost ever is that "an Englishman's Home is his castle" so the government does not intrude into the privacy of the home except where absolutely necessary (most often at the build and alteration stage through Building Regulations).The Housing Act does apply, mostly focusing on housing that is let. Correctly built flats do not usually benefit from communal alarms and these have led to deaths in a couple of cases. Where you have flats not built to standard or that are poorly converted then alarm systems that include some elements in the flats would be appropriate. A history of the legislation as well as the current approach for new & existing flats is in https://www.local.gov.uk/sites/default/files/documents/fire-safety-purpose-built-04b.pdf Information for HMO's and certain conversions is at https://www.rla.org.uk/docs/LACORSFSguideApril62009.PDF
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Do converted flats require fire risk assessment?
A fire risk assessment must be reviewed regularly and updated if there are any changes to risks, processes, people, structure, layout, etc No set timescale exists for a review, but the benchmark standard based on court cases and enforcement notices indicates annual as a minimum. Some premises have FRAs that are several years old, but as they have been reviewed annually and nothing has changed, have been deemed adequate. So if they are just commissioning a review then they are in the right as it's grossly overdue, although if using an external provider most would (rightly) insist on a full reassessment after an 11 year gap
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Certificate for external steel escape ladder
As it's Building Work for the Purposes of Building Regulations I would guess they want a completion certificate from Local Authority Building Control or the Approved Inspector the work was notified to?
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Fire Exit in a B&B that goes through next door
Whilst you have no obligation to do so I would get an accredited fire risk assessment provider to inspect the premises with a few to the real implications of a split as part of due diligence before purchasing as there is a risk you could inherit a premises with restrictions on usage or requiring capital expenditure to be compliant. Having done FRAs as part of purchasing due diligence whilst many are smooth there have been others leading to either a renegotiated price or even withdrawal from the purchase.
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Fire exit signs pointing up or down?
Up to make you go through that door. If there is a change of direction after the door then you add the additional sign there. There is no go through and then turn sign. Left arrow above a door means don't use the door go left instead.
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Smoke Ventilation in Converted Properties
My thoughts are you should get a refund and new FRAs. Approved Document B is irrelevant for FRA in existing flats. LACORS is the correct guide especially if due to the style of conversion they are section 257 HMO's. Even if purpose built the LGA Guide applies which, whilst it does sometimes require smoke control works, is far more holistic than just blindly following new build standards.
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Are door mats outside door a fire risk?
London no longer has it's own specific regulations affecting fire safety, the old London Building Acts are gone.
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Help with emergency exit door.
It's very old and similar to a Winchester Bolt and other old fastenings. For most of these the only non destructive way to access, test and service the latch is by unscrewing/disassembly. Whilst existing locks of this type can be tolerated in a Fire Risk Assessment in certain circumstances replacement with a modern approved fastening is preferable, particularly as it's a less common type of older lock for which spare components and glasses will be hard to find.
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Work in block of flats
The Fire and Rescue Service enforce the fire regulations and have specialist inspecting officers for this role (who would know all the rules and regs) so they are the right people to contact, but it must be the right department, the local station may not have one of the inspecting teams based there (so you just got a non specialist firefighter with no enforcement powers) and instead you need to approach the correct department direct, they have different names in different brigades but you can usually find them on the website from the business fire safety pages (or in the case of London it's flats fire safety pages)