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Government Fire Risk Assessment guidance for educational premises, which has ACOP like special status under Article 50 of the Fire Safety Order as all the guides now do, absolutely requires exit signage in anything other than the smallest simplest premises. Age of Build doesn't help as most signage that would be required for Fire Safety Order compliance is outside the scope of Building Regs so would have been picked up during the Building Control process (which itself is recognised as actually not much use at ensuring even the things that are covered by Building Regulations are correct!) although as emergency lighting would come under the BR process I'm surprised there weren't at least a few internally illuminated exit signs at final exits and rooms used as places of assembly. Who did the FRA?

No. Intumescent strips only are a common request by Licensing Officers for HMO's when the common system is only on the stair landings and hallways to prevent a delay in the alarm sounding (it's an old fashioned approach, but remains until their HMO guidance is updated). As you have detection in the bedrooms then, in accordance with all other guidance for protection of escape routes as well as the HMO guide, smoke seals would be expected.

If you actually read the linked guidance, which has article 50 status, it says: The fire safety principles and recommendations in this Guide can also be applied to smaller types of outdoor accommodation which fall under the same duties such as holiday caravans, camping and glamping pods, bothies, lodges, shepherds’ huts, tents, tree houses and yurts. I agree fire doors is taking it a bit far though!

https://www.safelincs.co.uk/blog/2013/07/26/magnetic-locks-on-fire-exits/

The NFCC Guide implies it could be in relation to the staff accommodation.

Hi, It's covered here: https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1147723/A_guide_to_making_your_small_paying-guest-accommodation_safe_from_fire.pdf "......there will be a need for interlinked domestic smoke alarms and heat alarms (of the type normally found in houses and flats) in all areas where a fire might start. Smoke alarms should be installed in hallways, corridors, staircases, lounges, dining rooms and bedrooms. Heat alarms should be installed in every kitchen, and in any other rooms (such as laundry or utility rooms), in which false alarms might occur from smoke alarms, due to cooking fumes, steam, dust, etc. If roof voids contain any combustible materials or sources of ignition, detection should also be present there. It is not normally necessary to install smoke or heat alarms in bathrooms or toilets. All smoke and heat alarms in the premises should be interlinked, so that, when any alarm device detects fire, all smoke and heat alarms give an audible alarm simultaneously. Interlinking may be by means of wiring or radio signalling. Preferably, all smoke and heat alarms should be mains powered with a tamper-proof standby power supply consisting of a battery. These are technically known as Grade D1 alarms. However, long-life, sealed battery alarms (known as Grade F1 alarms) may be acceptable as a short-term measure. (say, around 2-3 years). Additional equipment is available to provide a warning to Deaf or hard of hearing people in the event of fire. This comprises vibrating devices (for installation under pillows or mattresses) and/or flashing beacons. Further guidance on the provision of fire detection and alarm systems for premises providing sleeping accommodation can be found in BS 5839-6"

According to the Housing Act they do - if it meets the definition of a HMO then it is one regardless of the owner/operator.

There are many firemans switches for many things - is this a yellow box that looks similar to a fire alarm call point but has a three position key switch marked something like "normal/off/extract" or "open/auto/close"

Are there additional EL fittings from what was there before? They don't have to use a minor works certificate but the safety declaration, installation details, and the inspection and test results recorded on the client’s documentation should be no less comprehensive than would be included on the MEIWC

Who told you this?

Each flat in a sheltered housing block should have it's own self contained smoke & heat alarm system with a link to the flats telecare system to alert the remote warden service. It should be a Grade D1 LD1 system with smoke alarms to hallways, rooms other than bathrooms and a heat alarm to the kitchen. Older sites may have less provision but must by law have the smoke detector to the hallway as per the Smoke and Carbon Monoxide Alarm (England) Regulations 2015. These Regulations didn't apply to social housing providers originally, but as they have been found in recent years to be as bad as the worst private slum landlord they amended the law in 2022 via the Smoke and Carbon Monoxide Alarm (Amendment) Regulations 2022 to include those as well. The common alarm is not there to save the life of the flat occupier - it is there purely to alert the building and remote monitoring in case no one from the flat raises the alarm. A heat detector would activate after a room occupier had died and is used to prevent false alarms to the whole building and must be supplemented by a local system of smoke alarms. Links: Fire safety guide for sheltered housing: https://www.nationalfirechiefs.org.uk/write/MediaUploads/NFCC Guidance publications/NFCC_Specialised_Housing_Guidance_-_Copy.pdf Smoke and Carbon Monoxide Alarm (Amendment) Regulations 2022 guidance: https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/smoke-and-carbon-monoxide-alarms-explanatory-booklet-for-landlords/the-smoke-and-carbon-monoxide-alarm-england-regulations-2015-qa-booklet-for-the-private-rented-sector-landlords-and-tenants

Yes. The law also changed on 1st October meaning you must have a written FRA no matter how small you are or if you have employees or not. Here is the up to date guide to the law as of 1/10/23: https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/651567fe7c2c4a001395e180/14.310_HO_How_To_Guide_FINAL_RX_v04_.pdf Here is the FRA guide for small premises: https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/making-your-small-non-domestic-premises-safe-from-fire If you were just cutting hair in an unadapted room of your house that normally was a living or dining room it might be diffferent

Maintained fittings still have the charging light on, the only difference being they are lit in non emergency conditions.

Based on the new guidance: The FD20 doors would be fine without upgrading using fire & smoke seals (but would be a useful addition on a voluntary basis) The heritage doors would only be acceptable if of suitable solid construction, to quote the guide: "In most instances, it should be possible to accept solid, conventional doors that are a good fit in their frames. This will typically comprise a 44mm thick door of solid timber or with a core comprising flaxboard or chipboard. However, hollow core and thin panel doors, and any plain (non-fire resisting) glazing within doors or frames, provide little fire resistance and will normally need to be replaced with new 30-minute fire-resisting doors. Fitting intumescent strips and smoke seals to existing fire doors is not considered essential in properties covered by this Guide; in case of doubt, the advice of a competent fire safety specialist should be obtained."

There is brief mention of defend in place in the old (but still current until replaced) DCLG Residential Care Premises FRA guide & a lot more detail. including personal protection suppression, in the NFCC Specialised Housing Guide.

Guidance 50.—(1) The Secretary of State must ensure that such guidance, as he considers appropriate, is available to assist responsible persons in the discharge of the duties imposed by articles 8 to 22 and by regulations made under article 24. [F1(1A) Where in any proceedings it is alleged that a person has contravened a provision of articles 8 to 22 or of regulations made under article 24 in relation to a relevant building (or part of the building)— (a)proof of a failure to comply with any applicable risk based guidance may be relied on as tending to establish that there was such a contravention, and (b)proof of compliance with any applicable risk based guidance may be relied on as tending to establish that there was no such contravention.] (2) In relation to the duty in paragraph (1), the guidance may, from time to time, be revised. [F2(2A) Before revising or withdrawing any risk based guidance in relation to relevant buildings the Secretary of State must consult such persons as the Secretary of State considers appropriate.] (3) The Secretary of State shall be treated as having discharged his duty under paragraph (1) where— (a)guidance has been made available before this article comes into force; and (b)he considers that the guidance is appropriate for the purpose mentioned in paragraph (1). [F3(4) In this article— “relevant building” means a building in England containing two or more sets of domestic premises; “risk based guidance” means guidance under paragraph (1) about how a person who is subject to the duties mentioned there in relation to more than one set of premises is to prioritise the discharge of those duties in respect of the different premises by reference to risk.]

Yes - you really need to start referring to this https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/fire-safety-in-purpose-built-blocks-of-flats

Air BnB is considered using your house as a business like a guest house, BnB etc (& is taxable income as a result) and so requires more stringent safeguards. A lodger (which is not counted as taxable income up to a threshold) is more of a private arrangement with lesser requirements (but not if you have several) Holiday letting https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1147723/A_guide_to_making_your_small_paying-guest-accommodation_safe_from_fire.pdf Houses and lodgers https://www.lodgerguide.co.uk/landlord-lodger-legal-obligations/ https://www.cieh.org/media/1244/guidance-on-fire-safety-provisions-for-certain-types-of-existing-housing.pdf

You will see both configurations. The preference is not to cut normal lights that aren't combined EL units and in combined multi tube fittings only cut power to the tube with the battery pack, but it's not the end of the world if it's the more simple whole circuit cut as in most (but not all) situations it's just a quick disruption not a hazard.

Domestic detectors generally have a 10 year life. Original standards were to only put a smoke alarm in the hallway, but current practice is to also have a linked heat detector in the kitchen and possibly another smoke alarm in the living room, so most responsible landlords use the need to rewire a flat or otherwise renew the alarms as an opportunity to upgrade protection to the latest standard. The common alarm as described would only be required where there is some defect that cannot be readily resolved in the fire resistance/compartmentation of the building or, in anything other than the smallest blocks, the smoke control and Government guidance says this should be a last resort. This would also accompany a move from 'stay put unless affected' to 'simultaneous evacuation'. As for the doors, whilst they have limitations on gap sizes and should have close fitting smoke brushes, they shouldn't be difficult to open, there are standards governing how much force is needed to open a door and this would suggest a problem with the installation.

You could do it yourself, but the premises fall out of the scope of the small premises guidance and being a conversion of an older building would fall between two very different guidance documents with very different outcomes regarding installed fire protection and fire procedures depending on when, how and to what standard it was converted, so a degree of competence is required to determine which applies. If a modern conversion following the guidance in Approved Document B this is your guide: https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/fire-safety-in-purpose-built-blocks-of-flats If an older conversion or a modern one that departed from Approved Document B due to the constraints of the host building then this is your guide: https://www.cieh.org/media/1244/guidance-on-fire-safety-provisions-for-certain-types-of-existing-housing.pdf

No - that's why they are 1100mm from the floor - that is set in Building Regulations on the assumption people can crawl past the window (not that they would usually need to in a stay put block), the doors should still be fire doors though.

Plenty of houses exist without back doors at all and only the front and are perfectly fine. The door configuration appears a poor design though. I'd check on the council planning web site to see if the extension passed Building Control.

The assessor is correct in principle, however it may be adequate instead to expand the existing system to provide the correct cover. Regardless of whether it's done by one system or two separate systems the minimum cover would be (as has been for decades including when this would have been fitted. - Common system has detection to common stairs and hallway of each flat - 85dB at the bedroom doors from a common sounder (usually this means a sounder in each flat but you could always do an audibility test from the existing sounder location to see how loud it is when the sound gets to the bedroom doors) - If the common detector in each flat hallway is a heat (usually is but not always) then each flat would need a standalone smoke alarm in the hall. I'd extend the existing system with a couple of detectors (& if needed sounders) to achieve the physical cover above, which should be cheaper than ripping it all out and starting again. Whilst it isn't then a mixed system it provides the required level of protection - the only difference being an increased false alarm risk due to the common system having smokes in the flats.

The current definition of small is: • single premises of ground floor, or ground and first floor, providing sleeping accommodation for a maximum of 10 persons, with no more than four bedrooms on the first floor, such as houses, cottages, and chalets • individual flats (whether within a purpose-built block of flats or a house that has been converted into flats), other than unsually large flats (e.g. as often found in mansion blocks in London) The extra floor would make the larger premises guidance an applicable benchmark.