Fire Alarm Systems

Hi, I work at a dental practice which is set up like a house. We have a three surgery set up set over three floors. Its a small practice. It is a listed building. We have smoke alarms in the reception first floor and second floor and emergency lighting. Do smoke alarms suffice? Any patients with poor mobility are seen on ground floor. A shout is audible from the first floor to second floor. We have had a RA done who has said we are "not compliant" we were under the impression fire alarm systems are not a legal requirement. Help!

Hello, I'm looking for some advice on the scheduling of fire alarm testing - the company I work for are in contract with an NSI gold company for maintenance for fire alarms across our estate, I have been having issues with the scheduling of appointments recently (instead of 6 months apart it is regularly trying to be scheduled for 3 and 9 month intervals - on querying this with the company they just keep telling me: "Maintenance schedules are set up on commencement of contract dates and are due from that month and not from the date of the last maintenance visit, We have 28 days prior and after the due dates to comply with NSI regulations." When we set up the co…

Question re. Wiring addressable fire alarm under the floorboards avoiding Electromagnetic influences from mains powered circuits. Hi guys, I am starting to install my first fire alarm and I wonder if you could provide some help re. how to avoid emi if I cannot maintain a 50cm gap from mains powered circuits as stated in a manual. Also while crossing any circuit at 90deg both conductors are actually very close each other. Is there any solution for that? Many thanks

Anyone any ideas what key is used to access the controls on this panel?

Recently got a used Firepoint 5012, but cannot clear its faults. Screen shows ‘01 FAULT TOT 04 Control Panel FAULT: BT’ (No batteries are connected, but it should still clear the fault) Also faults for ‘Sounder’ do not clear. Device NOT CLEAR: Control Panel Press any key Any help welcome

Hi all If a site has a means of raising an alarm (call points) but no detection, do they have to carry out any servicing other than weekly tests? I understand an detection system with a fire panel should be serviced and maintained at least twice per annum but I'm not sure if there is no panel and no detection. Thanks Jon

Is it safe to install a D LD2 type fire alarm system for three self-contained flats in a Victorian property that lacks a spare fuse in the distribution board for a landlord supply?

Hi for a residential house converted 30+ years ago to 8 self-contained flats (7 studios, one 1-bedroom). It has a 14 year old system with Haes Envoy panel programmed to a twin-wire/ sav-wire apollo-65 series bases/detectors/sounders. There's 4 zones, heat detectors in each flat, and smokes in the hallways all connected to the panel. Each flat has a stand-alone mains-powered smoke alarm. In the past year or two, 2 zones have developed a fault and diagnosing was tricky as it's trial an error checking each device on the zone. Ideally I'd like a system where it's possible to see on each device if it's faulty. My fire engineer quoted £2500 to replace the panel, …

I am the fire officer for the company that I work for. Due to a faulty sensor the fire alarm system does not work. If a call point is triggered the panel will pick it up but no sounds will go off. I have raised this on many occasions and get told they are having issues getting the part. I have said that 7 months is a ridiculous amount of time. Personally I am not happy to be working on a site with no working fire system. What can I do about this.

Hi, I am a tenant in a flat above an admin office, in a listed building. My Landlord (owns the whole building) hasn't arranged a FRA, but the premises was visited by the fire brigade recently for some reason. I have my own independent access to my flat. Apparently the FB has informed that there should be 60m detection between the shop and my flat, but as a listed building, that seems like a difficult unnecessary task. Apparently in lieu of that, interlinked smoke/heat detection is a preferred option? What is the best route for this?

I own a flat above a lighting shop that I am trying to sell. The buyers' solicitors have asked for a Fire Risk Assessment which I don't have and the Freeholder hasn't arranged. The building: a double fronted building organised as a semi detached, with two flats above each commercial unit (one is a lighting shop and the other is an Indian takeaway). Our side of the building (and the other I believe) has separate access to the flats. The conversions into flats were completed in 2006. Am I right in thinking that as the renovations were done in 2006 (and assuming they were done correctly), there is no need to link a fire alarm system between the commercial and the…

Good Afternoon, BS 5839 Part 6 confirms the requirements for alarm systems/detection in flats converted pre 1991. Can I assume that the guidance doesn't concern flats converted after this date as the assumption is that the evacuation policy is Stay Put? I understand that building regs 1991 would have required 60m compartmentation after 1991, hence the Stay Put policy. A type 1 FRA is limited as to the assessment of the structure of the flats, so even if a flat was converted after 1991, could an alarm system be necessary? Thanks

The premises is occupied as a fast food restaurant on the ground floor with 7 residential units above in a High Street location. The building is 4 storeys and has wooden floors throughout. The building inspector is asking for manual fire alarm call points to be disabled in the residential areas on the grounds that the are often activated by mistake and to rely on smoke alarms. This seems bonkers to me. Thoughts?

Good evening, I live in a flat in a converted building, there are four flats in total over four storeys (basement, ground, first, second). The basement flat has its own independent access and the other three flats are accessed via a communal corridor and stairs. I have a smoke alarm in my flat, not sure about the others. There aren't any detectors in the stairwell or landing. We had a FRA completed which informed that our evacuation strategy was 'Stay Put', meaning that there isn't a requirement for detection in the communal space but did further advice that each flat have their own interlinked smoke and heat detectors. Is that right? Thanks

I have a Fike Twinflex system with a manual callpoint 402-0006 as the first thing in the chain. Then 8 sensors and then another manual callpoint at the end of line. The call point at the end of the line has the eol switched to on and the red light flashes on the front. However the red light on the call point at the start of the chain only flashes if its eol switch is set to on. I think i am correct in thinking it should have the eol switch set to off, but if i do, the red light does not flash. Any ideas?

Hello, I was wondering to find out if the licenced premises with an industrial kitchen need any detection and warning systems. I have been reading some publishings online and I remember they were saying “Every shop with an industrial kitchen needs some sort of fire detection and alert system”. Can any of you confirm this is correct? If yes is it mandatory? I could not find it on the Regulatory Reform Order 2005 or on the Shops Guide by the Government. Thank you for your time and support. Regards Esra

Quick question regarding a residential care home. Full L1 system installed but panel is not a fully addressable one. Zoned only. Im being told that it is mandatory to upgrade to fully addressable. Certainly acknowledge the benefits that offers but is it now mandatory ?

Hello, Whilst I understand that a business tenant has responsibilities under the legislation I cannot find out if the tenant or the landlord is responsible for the supply and installation of a fire alarm. Any help would be most gratefully received. I can be contacted by email or telephoned on 01656724100. many thanks Jon

Why is the KAC manual call point not working on a c tec conventional panel. The panel Is ending in 04 this is a cfp panel

Our office is small open plan office which is 90sqM with another similar office above on first floor. Ground floor is rented by us and the first floor is another separate business. Do we need a fire alarm system or would domestic interlinked smoke alarms suffice?

My mother and I have a holiday caravan on a park which we let out privately to guests. Can anyone confirm to me whether I am required to upgrade the fire alarm (smoke detectors) to an integrated system with one in every bedroom? If this is the case as there is a sofabed in the lounge area which is open plan with the kitchen and dining area, do i need both in this room? Up to now we've just had a single battery operated smoke detector which is loud enough and creates a disturbance if it accidently goes off, but with 4 or 5 sounders all going the noise will be deafening?

Hello, I have been told that in a residential care home with a addressable fire alarm each bedroom must have a sounder is this correct

Hello I have been advised that I must have a smoke detector in every cupboard irrregardless of the cupboards contents that measures over 1m2. We are a care home for the elderly

Hello all, I have a client asking for text and zoning to be changed on the above mentioned panel, Is software needed for this? If so which?

A house has been converted to seven flats pre -1991 building regs. They are for elderly residents over 55, they are owner occupiers and run their own management committee for the premises. It has a ground floor and two further upper floors and a basement, there is only one smoke detector at the top of the stairwell linked to manual call points on each storey level and warning bells on each level. The residents doors are all fire doors leading onto the communal landing with a single stairway to the exit on the ground floor. The residents flats have battery smoke detectors they have supplied themselves. Is this level of fire detection suitable, or w…