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Fire Risk Assessments

  1. Started by Agent3306,

    Are there ever any circumstances when a room within a room (the outer room is a commercial kitchen) can be justified?

  2. Guest LeaseholderLou

    Hello, I know I'm far from the first leaseholder with this issue but would deeply appreciate any ideas. My flat is in a purpose built block of 4 flats, set over 2 floors, and is on the upper floor. Building and fittings are c. 20 years old. The front door recently failed a basic visual inspection because it's "not fire-rated". I have strong evidence this was only determined because it doesn't have a marking. As you are well aware, the Govt. guidance is clear that this isn’t required for older doors and this alone isn't enough to require automatic replacement. The door is original to the build and, to my knowledge, has had no major alterations. The door did not appear to b…

  3. Guest Sam
    Started by Guest Sam,

    Hi. I live in a 4 story block of flats.This morning I noticed an orange light flashing on the fire vent box in the communal hallway. I then noticed the AOV window on the roof of the flats is completelty broken. I've reported this to housing. They said they are aware & it will take 3 weeks to repair. My concern is what if a fire was to happen . We would be smoked to dead.

  4. Hi All, We manage apartment blocks, and sometimes residents install their own EV chargers in basement car parks without seeking the appropriate permissions etc. In these cases, we are usually recommended to enforce removal of the charger or install heat detection that is linked to an ARC. I am aware that an EV fire is a greater hazard than an ICE fire. What I’m struggling to understand is why an ICE fire is not so much of a hazard to already need these measures. Surely a car fire of any kind is a great hazard, and being in a part of the building that is frequently unoccupied, it would make sense to have heat detection linked to an ARC? Everything I’ve seen online suggests…

  5. Started by Garbo,

    I have returned to a site to review a FRA. They havent been particularly helpful, no actions from previous years actioned, some rooms not accessible etc etc. There is a room that I am particularly worried about, it is about 3m x 3m and is used to mix chemicals from various containers. The first issue is the door to it was replaced with a timber door that doesnt fit the frame, no intumescent strip, proper door closer, doesnt stay closed. This has been the case for several years and the site insist it is a fire door because it has a special vent in the door, which it does, but you can see into the room through the gaps around the door. Anyway, that isnt really my questi…

    • 3 replies
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  6. Started by Robert Dudson,

    HMO an d has metal consumer unit in walk in cupboard. (Also used for other items. Timber does so I am recommending Supalux on inside of doors, but noticed no sensor for alarm seen here. Should it also have a sensor or at least a stand alone smoke alarm in the cupboard?

  7. Guest Abs
    Started by Guest Abs,

    Currently purchasing an office building that’s 1900’s era built as a pub originally, I am wanting to turn it into a children’s nursery. through the center of the building is a large square staircase that connects ground, first and second floor, which is open through the center of the staircase, the perimeter is say 3m x 3m with wooden spindles, I believe they are called Atrium staircases, any smoke would funnel straight up the staircase and enter every level. Would anything need to be done to ensure it’s legal? currently all the doors that open onto the stairway corridor look like fire doors

    • 1 reply
    • 80 views
  8. Guest Uh I
    Started by Guest Uh I,

    I live in a two storey block of flats (there are four flats in total in the block). Each flat has its own entrance and there are no common areas. What sort of fire safety assessment and documentation do we need?

    • 33 replies
    • 19.5k views
  9. Guest ACB
    Started by Guest ACB,

    Does a 2 storey house let to 1 family need an FRA. There is a basement flat. Each has their own front door and each has a front and rear exit, there are no communal areas. Also, do the front doors need to be FD30s fire doors even though they are external exit doors.

    • 1 reply
    • 161 views
  10. Hello all, I am in need of desperate advice following different recommendations from different assessors. We manage 4 storey buildings that are a purpose built block of flats (built 2003/2004), with varying number of properties in each section of the building, which are not interlinked. The communal areas all have interlinked smoke detectors and there is an AOV in some sections of the building with a single detector at the top floor near the AOV. There is a AOV manual switch on the ground floor near the front entrance door which has been secured using a metal box with a fire bridge padlock (FB1 key). There is only a single staircase in each separate section of the bu…

  11. Hi, We have just moved to an flat on floor 3 (top floor) of flats constructed between 2001 and 2003. We have had a Fire Door Survey undertaken of all the flat doors and communal doors in the two blocks. This has shown a number of issues that they flag as red but Gov notes in 2025 confirm that if the doors met the regs in 2001- 2003, it is not necessary to retrofit Intumescent or smoke seals etc. However, I am struggling to find a copy of the regs that applied at the time to check what the regs were for the number of hinges required on service cupboard doors, recommended gaps around the door frame and doorstop size. Is anyone able to advise please as we do not wish to s…

    • 4 replies
    • 315 views
  12. Hi All John here! Writing here as we speak to so many Fire Risk Assessors on a daily basis and keep getting conflicting advice. So, We are Fire door installers and do all remedial works etc and most clients want us to do the work and certify the doors afterwards which we can do as we're qualified for that too but... The issue is, we can fit a new fire door with all the bells and whistles to make it compliant but is that enough to sign it off afterwards? in our training it says 'preferably' it's best to change the door lining but as long as the new door is compliant it should be fine and it's down to us to take the responsibility in the long run.…

  13. Started by SteveNeedsAnswers,

    A basement end passageway has a resident flat. The flat entrance is a final exit door onto an exterior escape route (the outside) so doesn't have to be a fire door. Directly opposite that flat door (no more than three feet) is a riser room under the above pavement which contains electrical meters/cables etc. This riser room door vents to the outside so does not have to have a fire rating. My issue is - despite the correct calls from the fire safety assessment - that the resident must surely have their safety compromised should there be an outbreak of heat/smoke/fire from the riser area. The escape route is compromised and the resident and their property are vulnerable at …

  14. Guest Aaron
    Started by Guest Aaron,

    I have recently been asked a question by a bar/restaurant, and they have been told they can only have 60 persons, when originally it was 100. I am reading contradicting guides or not showing information I require. The premise, · 3 Interconnecting rooms with no door’s large openings with a central open plan kitchen. · Exits Front Open Inward 850mm from restaurant · Exit Rear Open Inward 850mm from restaurant · Central – Open outwards but you are required to pass through Prep room, that at present has 1 small electric hob and small storage. If I disregard the Prep Room Exit – as it is a prep room, I …

    • 1 reply
    • 212 views
  15. Guest LindaSigur
    Started by Guest LindaSigur,

    We own an apartment in a house converted in into five apartments in 2000. From reading your information we are not an HMO and only the communal areas are subject to Fire Regulations. Am I also correct that we do not legally require a fire safety assessment? Our Management Company has informed us this was needed and it has been carried out. One outcome is the recommendation of installing a fire alarm. Am I correct that neither is required by law?

    • 40 replies
    • 26.9k views
  16. Hi, I have a 2 storey mixed-use premises, consisting of a commercial unit (takeaway) on the ground floor and single residential unit (1 bed flat) on the first floor. There are no common area and separate entrances to both units. I am aware that I require a commercial FRA for the takeaway downstairs, but I am unsure as to whether I require a residential FRA for the flat as there are no common areas and both have separate entrances. I understand that the Fire Safety Act 2021 states that an FRA is required for building containing two or more dwellings, regardless of whether there are common area or not, but does not mention mixed-use in this way. Basically, d…

    • 2 replies
    • 301 views
  17. Guest LadyRaby
    Started by Guest LadyRaby,

    If I’m on the 3rd floor (top floor) and my kitchen window opens onto a public landing leading to a residence either side (I am the only flat that has a kitchen window situated in the shared landing area) with the only internal staircase opposite my front door, and no other exit other than through my front room (which cuts off every other exit should I have a fire), what should I do and is this legal/safe?

    • 0 replies
    • 168 views
  18. Guest Static
    Started by Guest Static,

    Have a number of simple one up one down properties that I am carrying out FRAs for. The gas meters are stored in a cupboard within the communal area. These cupboards do not have ventilation or door signage ie Gas meters keep shut. I have recommended a vent is added to the cupboard preferably to the outside also signage added. Unable to find any regs etc mentioning the need for signage, can anyone assist with this? The buildings were building 1965

    • 0 replies
    • 181 views
  19. Guest Kate
    Started by Guest Kate,

    We live (and are co-freeholders) of a 2 storey Victorian building that comprises 2 flats; one upstairs and one downstairs, with a small communal hallway at ground level (1x3m) which contains both flat entrance doors. The building was converted long before 1991. The FRA recommends a simultaneous evacuation strategy with Grade D2 LD2 alarms: The premise is recommended to have installed a Fire Alarm System installed meeting BS5839-6 designed to Category Grade D2 LD2, as per LACORS. Grade D2 - A System of mains powered detectors with user-replaceable batteries. Category LD2: a system incorporating detectors in all circulation areas that form part of the es…

    • 3 replies
    • 496 views
  20. Started by Nanc,

    Our recent fire risk assessment says we need a fire-resistant enclosure around the communal electrical distribution board. BS 7671 compliant. The issue is that the board runs right up to the ceiling, so there’s no vertical space above it, and there’s also a very thick incoming cable entering from the floor at the bottom. So a simple overbox won't do. We initially thought about building a box around it, but read that using MDF (or standard timber) wouldn’t meet fire-resistance requirements? What’s the usual or accepted way to enclose something like this when there’s no space above?

  21. We are in a converted house with two flats (one upstairs, one downstairs) and a small shared communal hallway (less than 2m²). The FRA indicated that we need to install mains powered fire alarm, Grade D Category LD2 with a connected heat detector in each flat.However, I’m struggling to find clear guidance that a communal alarm is required at all in a small two-flat conversion, as I understand these are usually designed as “stay put” buildings with alarms only inside the flats. Can anyone clarify whether a communal alarm system is legally required? We will be installing fire doors if that helps. In addition, if it is required, does this mean the alarms inside the flat…

  22. Guest Ryan Cooper
    Started by Guest Ryan Cooper,

    I'm looking to prepare for IFE Level 4 Exams. This looks good https://hsecounsel.com/courses/ife-level-4/ Any other suggestions?

    • 0 replies
    • 186 views
  23. Can anyone please let me know which fire safety guidance applies to such an establishment? I have looked at DCLG documents such as residential care, nursing homes and sleeping accommodation but these do not appear to be relevant. Not sure that Specialised Housing is appropriate either. As mentioned staff are there 24/7 and sleep there. Any advice will be appreciated. Thanks

    • 2 replies
    • 302 views
  24. Guest Gilberto
    Started by Guest Gilberto,

    Hello there I am helping with a licensed event feasibility study and am trying to calculate the safe capacity of the venue. This will help determine if the event is financially viable. The room proposed is approx. 700sqm and located on the lower ground floor of a former high street shop. The lower ground floor has one 1900mm final exit door and one 750mm final exit door, both lead directly outside; both doors are relatively close to each other along the same side of the room There are two more 750mm exits which lead upstairs, where there is one 1900mm and one 750mm final exit doors, both again lead directly outside. I am veering towards a safe capac…

    • 1 reply
    • 317 views
  25. Has anyone come across a situation whereby they have encountered unenclosed electrical meters and their associated electrical wiring in the common stairway enclosures serving domestic dwelling flats? If so would they consider enclosing such installations and why? The stairway enclosures in which the installations are located have no form of ventilation to fresh air.

    • 5 replies
    • 3.1k views

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