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  1. I doubt it. 99% of engineers do NOT take the hose off to inspect it, they merely look at it and look to see if the nozzle is free from obstruction.
  2. Hello, you are right, you can not put a fire extinguisher in the normal waste, however you could try and see if your local recycling centre will take it. You may also wish to consider putting them on an auction site for COLLECTION ONLY There is an interest in old extinguishers.
  3. What you say is how most people carry out a fire alarm test. However the panel that Morag mentions is an analogue addressable panel. (For any one reading this who does not know what that means, in short every device on the fire alarm, be that a manual call point, smoke detector, heat detector, electronic sounder, flashing light etc has its own unique address. All devices in one area are connected to the same cable loop. The idea is that you can identify which detector has initiated the alarm by its address. The fire panel will display something like "Fire, smoke detector main corridor" With this type of panel it is possible to make any sounders activate differently than others. For example: A device in a large building operates, sounders in the "same area" as this device could signal: Fire, immediate evacuation, where as sounders on the other side of the building could signal: Fire, prepare to evacuate. How it does this depends on the system, some have different coloured lights, some even have voice messages etc) Like wise, it is possible to programme different sounders with different timings. I suspect that this is what has been done in Morag's situation. Its only analogue addressable fire alarm panels that can do this (Even then, some of the features are only on the bigger panels) The most common fire panel is called "conventional" and operates on the principal of "one out, all out"
  4. Hello Morag. The panel you mention HAS the ability to have the sounder duration of any specific sounder(s) altered. However it is carried out via the programming options, so would require the services of someone who is familiar with that panel.
  5. I have to ask, are you sure you haven't got 4? another one in say, the loft? If not, you could try taking all 3 down at the same time, keep them down for a long while and see which one beeps.
  6. It depends on which type of powder is in the extinguisher as to if it would be suitable or not. (Each extinguisher has markings to show what category of fire it can be used on) The Christmas tree would come under the category of class A, some powder extinguishers are only suitable for class B and C (not class A) so an extinguisher for class B and C will not work on a class A fire. (Class B and C only extinguishers are ideal for vehicle engine fires, but not textiles, paper etc) Powder extinguishers do leave a residue and can temporarily reduce visibility in a confined space, for that reason I would suggest a 2 litre foam extinguisher which you can buy from Safelincs for home use.
  7. The only problem caused by operating a light switch is, if there is the presence of a flammable gas, operating a switch on or off may create a spark igniting said gas. But for a fire evacuation, I for one do not see a problem with turning the lights on. (Assuming they still work)
  8. Your "project" should also take into consideration how will your idea work with existing smoke alarms, bearing in mind that you can buy a brand new smoke alarm from safelincs just over a fiver As Tom said, But folk who buy smoke alarms from safelincs can also sign up to the free reminder service.
  9. I have to agree with Tom (But in more, smaller words) From what you say it is not clear (To anyone reading this) where the pots are, in relation to everything else, and how big they are and what is in the pots. You could have small heavy pots with tall plants in them, the plants will make it easier to topple the pots. Also (Again as Tom says) Just because the pots have been there 13 years does not mean its safe / correct. The problem arises if an evacuation is required. When everything is "normal" folk will see the pots and walk round them, in an evacuation folk do not always think strait and if its "dark" or a visitor to the area has to evacuate the pots may "be in the way" so some poor soul could fall over them, and the next person fall over them etc, all because of "a few flower pots" 13 years ago people didn't have smoke alarms in their houses as standard (OK, new builds and extra work its now compulsory) they thought a fire will never happen. That is why we have risk assessments.
  10. To change the code you should follow the instructions below: 1. Press button C 2. Enter the current passcode (this may be the factory default 1,2,3,4 or a previously set user code of 4-16 digits) 3. Press button # (a melody will sound to confirm your code) 4. Turn the knob to open the lock 5. With the lock open, press the # button 6. Enter the code from step 2 (the default factory code 1,2,3,4 or previously set user code) 7. Press the # button 8. Enter a new 4-16 digit code 9. Press the # button. Your code is now set to the one entered in step 8
  11. Sorry to disagree, but round here they only install a detector IF you fit into the correct category, they do not "maintain" them. Taken from our Fire Brigades website Smoke Alarms can be purchased from as little as £5 per alarm from a range of stores across Your county If you live in Your county and are unable to safely fit your own smoke alarms or believe that you are in one of the risk categories shown below we will supply and fit smoke alarms for you absolutely FREE. Our uniformed officers will visit you at home by appointment and deliver a FREE home safety package, specially tailored to your needs. This includes giving you expert advice and, as an extra bonus, we'll supply and fit FREE smoke alarms where necessary. I appreciate that you never said that they (The fire Brigade) will maintain them, (They even state that to have one fitted is a bonus) but my point is they only fit them and probably just the one brand. As you yourself mentioned, there are a whole variety of smoke alarms out there, I would not expect the FB to know them all. I once asked a fireman do you know the water pressure of your hose, he had no idea, and went on to point out that he has no need to, he also said he could tell me about a lot of things, but as for specific detail of any one item, they do not need to know. I have also known firemen to see that the LED on an emergency light is on and then say "That light is ok because the charge light is on" When the supply was removed for said light the light illuminates for less than a minute. Firemen are good for rescuing and extinguishing fires, because that's what they train for.
  12. HI, Tom, guess I will have to move to Tewksbury then. "Quotes from our council website" What legal action can be taken? We have legal powers to stop a smoke nuisance caused by a bonfire. If a person causes a smoke nuisance, we will serve a notice. A person who ignores the notice commits a criminal offence which can result in a fine of up to £5000." Can I have a bonfire after 7pm? Some people believe the law allows them to have a bonfire after 7pm. This is not the case as causing a smoke nuisance at any time is against the law. Can I use a garden incinerator? Burning waste materials in a garden incinerator can also cause a smoke nuisance, so we are asking residents not to use them.
  13. There is one sure way to check if you should keep your emergency lights, turn all the other lights off, can you see your way out?
  14. As the doors are to become "fire doors" I have to ask are the doors suitably rated? is your husband aware of the regulations in respect of fire doors? If the answer is no, he can not issue a certificate, and will regretfully have to sub contract the work to a fire door specialist company. To read more information about fire doors for future reference CLICK HERE
  15. I don't like to disagree with Tom, but a fire station is the last place you should call in regard to a smoke detector beeping, the fire service may / do install detectors, but they are by no means an "authority" on how to change a battery in one. I do however agree that the make and model needs to be known before the correct advice can be given, in aid to that Safelincs do have a youtube channel showing how to change some batteries, perhaps one is what MJ has? The Safelincs youtube channel can be found if you CLICK HERE
  16. I don't like to disagree with Tom but in quite a few places around the country it IS ILLEGAL to have a bonfire, as the area you live may be a "smokeless zone" Even though it is November the 5th its still illegal, but there are so many fires today they give up, but you may want to bear it in mind for future reference.
  17. I would say you need to have a risk assessment carried out to determine if you do, and if so where / how many. Most fire alarm companies should be able to help. (They also look after / install emergency lighting) With regard to "portable battery powered lights which require no wiring" Do you mean a torch? By its definition an emergency light has to come on when the lighting supply fails, a normal torch will not do this, and also if its dark, how will you see to find the torch? (Worse still what if its not where it was last time you looked)
  18. I can't help but wonder, did the "Traders" wake up one day and instantly become "Traders" I think not, no doubt they practised first. Practice makes perfect. I also wonder what will happen in a real fire, will they stay there and say "its ok, I am a Trader, I don't need to evacuate, its a fire drill, isn't it? where do I go?
  19. Not to mention, what use would a water extinguisher be if its an electrical fire? I have to agree with Tom, and add. A portable fire extinguisher is "first aid" to fight a fire, what use is it if you are outside? besides, take the 9 litre water extinguisher from safelincs CLICK HERE it weighs 13.8 kg, to carry it safely any great distance you need both hands which in turn will make you slower, which is why, as you yourself said, Which is saying that in a fire drill, you are the last out because you are pointlessly carrying a fire extinguisher.
  20. Hi, its readable in English, but I have a few questions. 1) Why is it in English if its for a non-English speaking country? 2) If its for a non English speaking country, what use is it to dial 112 ? (Surely they will not be able to understand English?) 3) What does the fire alarm sound like? (In England you could say, continuous bell ringing or high low tones etc) 4) How does some one "Test the door" (It does not state what to actually do.) I doubt you will reply, or read this because it has to be vetted by a moderator first, which can take days, by which time you will have asked elsewhere and received a response.
  21. Although some what late in the debate, I met someone who had a carbon monoxide detector installed on a burglar alarm, after a few years it started going off for "no reason" Alarm company changed the detector, next day it went off again. Turned out the gas boiler was old and developing a "leak" My point being that often people think that things are "faulty" when the truth is they are doing what they are designed to do. In this case, detect carbon monoxide.
  22. I would say change them both, sounds like one has been damaged.
  23. Would it not be better to have a fire alarm? (category M) Heaven forbid there is a real fire, but would you want to find a bell and ring it, or would you prefer to just "press hard"
  24. Sorry for being late in the debate, for reference co2 fire extinguishes DO have an internal tube; 1) Handle / trigger This is the part you squeeze to release the carbon dioxide. 2) Discharge horn This is the part that directs the carbon dioxide 3) Main valve This is the main valve of the extinguisher. 4) Pressure relief valve If the pressure gets too high, this valve will automatically release, preventing the extinguisher from exploding. 5) Siphon tube. This is where the carbon dioxide travels to get out of the main body. 6) Start of main body of extinguisher Yes, it is sealed in the extinguisher, but to say it does not have one is wrong.
  25. (Thinking out loud) It may be that if you use powder you will disappear in a giant cloud which may "worry" your passengers, some local authorities are now banning dry powder extinguishers for this reason and the fact of the "mess" they make. Also AFFF foam is very common for foam extinguishers.
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