Tom Sutton
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Is this a private or public lift?
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What is the fire doors being install for, and a sketch would easier to understand than your description also what guidance is the premises subject to.
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What cert are you talking about.
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I believe the sleeping guide is referring to single occupancy type of premises and lacors guide with those with common areas. With lacors you need a fire alarm for each flat and one for the common areas. The flat alarm only needs to warn the flat occupants and the alarm in common areas needs to warn everybody.
If there is a fire and the flat is unoccupied the heat detector will warn the whole of the premises also the heat detector should be located close to the front door ( reduce the possibility of false alarms) in each flat, for example smoke from the toaster will only operate the smoke detectors not the heat detector.
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Fire safety legislation did not include flats until RR(FS)O 2005 therefore now it is enforceable. With the increase of fire safety knowledge the enforcement authorities have become more aware of the importance for front doors to meet the full FD30s standard.
Whether you have a formal complaint against the freeholder is a matter for solicitors.
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A block of flats must have staircase's therefore must have common areas and it will depend on the fire strategy for the building and the type of fire alarm required or not according to the fire risk assessment.
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GENERAL ADVICE AND GUIDELINES
A stair-lift should not be installed in a single stairway building if it causes an unacceptable restriction in width to the only available route of escape.
The stairway width required for means of escape should be maintained beyond the incursion into the stairway width of any fixed part of the stair-lift such as the carriage rail.
The effect of other parts of the installation on the width of the escape routes should also be considered e.g. the power unit and the stair-lift itself when in the closed position.
I am assuming there is only one communal staircase therefore it is not acceptable and the minimum escape width would be 30 inches leaving 12 inches for the stair lift which in my experience would be not sufficient.
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On 07/06/2021 at 18:23, Meady said:
Hi Tom - not for the gas installation. They had sign off certificate when building first constructed (approximately 8 years ago). But no certificate / sign off for the new gas system and the pipe in the stairway.
What are you thinking?
I got one when they installed a gas pipe feeding my newly install gas boiler?
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You are unlikely to find any BSS standards there are industrial and HSE codes of practice for LPG/fuel oils also there is another complication both being stored together?
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With no stamp how can you evaluate to what standard they meet therefore I would consider them not suitable. Check with the manufacturer.
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5 minutes ago, Tom Sutton said:
It appears to me that the label is an example of a shorter label which is only for use on certain items and not a sofa. I would suggest you contact the enforcing authority, Trading Standards Department or you could try FIRA Guide to the UK Regulations.
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It appears to me that the label is an e example of a shorter label which is only for use on certain items and not a sofa. I would suggest you contact the enforcing authority, Trading Standards Department or you could try FIRA Guide to the UK Regulations.
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has the owner received a building regulations compliance certificated?
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Escape windows are not only required for self rescue they provide means for a third party to effect a rescue i.e. fire service. Also locks (with or without removable keys) and opening stays (with child-resistant release catches) may be fitted to escape windows and mechanical air vents could be fitted for ventilation. Regarding the garden the council may be able to provide help through social services.
I would have thought that the housing association has met their statutory requirements and all that is open to you is persuasion.
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Trading Standards Department are the enforcing authority they would be best to respond to this question. What I can say is any materials used to satisfy the regulations needs written proof that they meet the required fire resisting standards.
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PPE dosent figure in FRA, so I do not have answer for you, I use a different method to assess risk hazard, check out https://www.firesafe.org.uk/fire-risk-assessment/
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Have you spoken to the landlord and/or the council who are responsible for these premises, you could also contact the local fire service, fire safety department.
You will need evidence and as items 1 2 3 all relate to the standard of the fire doors therefore you need them inspecting by a competent person like a member of FDIS and get an inspection report.
I assume you mean the fire alarm panel when you refer to the panels, however I am not aware of any 24hr inspection, there are inspections required by the guidance and a logbook is required, check out BS5839.
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The walls, floor, vertical shafts and ceiling all form the protected route and should achieve the required fire resistance. Not everything will appear in guidance or regulations you have to use common sense and your experience. For instance if the hatch to a loft is in a staircase then you need to conduct a fire risk assessment to ascertain the hazard of a fire in a flat or loft space spreading to the staircase and making it impassable.
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You should be fixing fire door sets not fire door leaves only and as the frames as well as the leaves have been tested, then you can be sure that they meet the correct standard.
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On 15/03/2020 at 19:25, Del777il said:
Thanks Tom I appreciate the response. In the case where the natural vented smoke shaft continues to the basement lobby, is a vent at the head of the basement stairs also required as would normally be provided for upper floors as per para 2.26 ADB ? I cannot see how this could be feasabily provided.
Are you using the current 2020 ADB?
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On 27/05/2021 at 16:57, Guest GThorn said:
Hi Does this mean that a basement fire escape staircase does not need a set of doors at the bottom of the stairs, if it leads to a final protected exit, with a separation of one hour. ? The premises in question is a restaurant at basement level and ground floor level with approx 40 covers in basement and 80 covers on ground floor.
It sounds that your description would achieve the one hour separation between the ground floor and the basement but without seeing it I cannot be a 100% certain.
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Check the other post you made.
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According to the guides, door draught excludes are not included and it would need an interpretation of the legislation and as the Trading Standards Department are the enforcing authority they would be best to respond to this question. What I can say is any materials used to satisfy the regulations needs written proof that they meet the required fire resisting standards.
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The fire alarm in the flat should be a domestic fire alarm BS 5839 part 8 confined to the flat the only, person that will be disturbed will be the flat owner. The rest of the premises would have a BS 5839 part 1 which may have a heat detector in the flat to warn the building that there is a fire in the flat especially when the flat is empty. Without a survey I cannot give you the full details and I do not do surveys. Advice is still the same ?.
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The fact it is a fire door is irrelevant you need to consider the means of escape and how the door furniture will affect the escape route.