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Tom Sutton

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  1. Yes the doors across escape corridors are smoke stop doors to ensure you do not have to travel more than 18 m in smoke conditions, check out ARCHITECTURAL AND SPECIALIST DOOR MANUFACTURERS ASSOCIATION BEST PRACTICE GUIDE TO TIMBER FIRE DOORS section 14 Smoke control door seals.
  2. I think so because people on the third floor do not have a window escape available (too high) therefore an enhanced fire alarm is required. I think it would depend on the separation (60 mins) between the basement flat and the rest and if I was in the basement flat I would want to know if the rest of building was involved in fire.
  3. Surf the web "fire door training courses" I am sure you will find something useful here is an example, www.firedoorscomplete.co.uk .
  4. A surveyor maybe able to advise you, I am not sure but for the cost of an independent Fire Door Inspector you should contact Fire Door Inspection service.
  5. Apart from not being wired into the consumer unit, so it can be isolated, to work on the system, as I think it should, you haven't mentioned BS 7273-4 as AB suggested.
  6. I am not aware of anytime for a fire log book needs to be kept, but I would want to be able to check the previous test/maintenance and the longest frequency would be the 5 years for extinguishers, (except CO 2), so I think 5 years would be a reasonable time considering many organisations use this time period.
  7. It is impossible to identify the blue door without some form of documentation or label but based on the number you gave for the door provided, check out https://www.howdens.com/joinery/doors/howdens-spey-flush-fire-door-fd30-obj-sku-family-11831290, if it is, then it provide a lot of information.
  8. Brush cold smoke seals are fitted to a fire doors and then subject to BS 476: Part 31: Section 31.1. if it passes the BS then that cold seal is considered acceptable.
  9. This is a legal matter not a fire safety matter, it looks like the Responsible Person as defined by The Regulatory Reform (Fire Safety) Order 2005 has been required to upgrade the front fire doors of each flat and is charging the tenants of each flat for the work carried out. Who pays should be contained in any agreements you have and this is the job of a solicitor.
  10. The regulation that covers the common areas, of your premises is The Regulatory Reform (Fire Safety) Order 2005 article 13 which basically says if necessary you should fit a fire alarm. If it is required, the guidance to use is BS 5839 part 6. A grade A should be installed with smoke detection in the common areas and a heat detector in the hallway of each flat. This is very basic information and you should discuss this with a competent fire alarm installer. The EN 54 Fire detection and fire alarm systems is a mandatory standard that specifies requirements and laboratory test for every component of fire detection and fire alarm system and it allows the free movement of construction products between countries of the European Union market.
  11. What is the direction of opening of the doors and the widths? Check out the appropriate guides including for disabled persons in https://www.firesafe.org.uk/regulatory-reform-fire-safety-order-2005/ .
  12. Regarding the operational incident you remarked on, it is normal procedure to set up a bridge head on a lower floor and keep the fire floor clear for firefighting. As for the hose getting stuck under the door, problems regularly happen and has to be resolved quite often with damage occurring. I am afraid being involved in a fire is not a pleasant situation and quite often leaves problems to be resolved. As for the fire safety officer's visit I can understand your concerns and you could complain to the senior fire safety officer at headquarters to see what he/she comes up with. If it is the fire doors you are concerned with you could contact Fire Door Inspection Service and have them inspected, getting a full m report on each door which you could give to the SFSO to ask him/her what they will do. If you still want a fire risk assessor you can surf the web in your local area, using A Guide to Choosing a Competent Fire Risk Assessor to ensure you get a competent person.
  13. Tom Sutton

    RosWhitehouse

    You should surf the web using A Guide to Choosing a Competent Fire Risk Assessor to ensure you get a competent person.
  14. I would suggest you contact The Furniture Industry Research Association as I am not an authority on this subject but I will give you my understanding. The interliner has to be made of a material containing at least 75 per cent by weight of cotton, flax, viscose, modal, silk or wool, used separately or together and not coated with polyurethane or a polyurethane preparation and meet the requirements of schedule 3 of Statutory Instrument 1988 No. 1324. The interliner may be water-soaked or not but it has to meet the requirements of schedule 3. Crib 5 calico most probably indicates it has been tested to ignition source 5 of BS 5852: Part 2, but the other should be tested to the same, I would ask the supplier what is the difference. You are also responsible for the filling and need the test certificate for proof. When you buy the material you should ensure you get the test certificate to prove it meets the required standards as you are responsible and may need to convince the enforcing authority. You do need a permanent label, permanently fixing to the item, and stitching underneath could be acceptable also you need a display label. Check out https://www.firesafe.org.uk/furniture-and-furnishings-fire-safety-regulations-19881989-and-1993/ may be useful.
  15. Tom Sutton

    Mrs

    That would have made sense but you have a document that state all is correct so is that not sufficient, you could also show it to the concerned bodies to check they are satisfied.
  16. I am not certain what do you want comments on? However I would check out the space above the false ceiling, to ensure the fire alarm cover this area or cavity barriers to prevent unseen spread of fire.
  17. Get in contact with the manufacturer if you think the alarm is faulty it should still be under warranty depending how long you have had it.
  18. Tom Sutton

    Ms

    I know you can buy fire door cores and build a fire door which includes fitting side lippings. To do this you are supplied with the core and instructions (a global assessment ) which provides the information how to achieve this and include the fitting of side lippings, dictating the sizes to use. So using a wider lippings may reduce the gap to the required gap. You would need to remove the existing side lippings and replace it with a new ones but I do not know how practical this is, consequently you would have to speak to a competent joiner. I am not aware of any other methods that would be acceptable. For more information check out https://www.egger.com/shop/en_GB/interior/product-detail/FIREDOORCORES there are others if you surf the web.
  19. Where did you get, you require FD30s in a dwelling house my reading of Approved Document B (Fire Safety) Vol 1 Appendix C, table C 1, only the door between a dwelling house and an integral garage requires a FD30s fire door with self closer. As FD 20 are not readily available so you could use FD 30 fire doors and this could allow you some options regarding the ventilation. 11. In a dwelling house: Euro BS 476 p 22 a. between a dwelling house and a garage. FD 30 S a(2) FD 30 S(2) b. forming part of the enclosures to a protected stairway in a single family dwelling house E 20 FD 20 c. within any fire resisting construction in a dwelling house not described elsewhere in this table. E 20 FD 20
  20. Check out page 47 in the above guide and it reads "Grade A:LD2 coverage in the common areas and a heat alarm in each flat in the room/lobby opening onto the escape route (interlinked) and a grade D LD3 coverage in each flat (non-interlinked smoke alarm in the room/lobby opening onto the escape route) to protect the sleeping occupants of the flat."
  21. No I do not think you will they all appear to be based on standard width staircases even if you go back to POST-WAR BUILDING STUDIES NO. 29 FIRE GRADING OF BUILDINGS PART 3 PERSONAL SAFETY and the narrowest is 2' 6" (750mm). Check out http://www.highrisefire.co.uk/docs/HMSO 52_Fire grading of buildings Parts 2 to 4.pdf page 81.
  22. Tom Sutton

    Miss

    Glad to be of help, I would also think AB would agree.
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