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Are refurbished fire extinguishers allowed in a business environment?

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Posted 16 January 2012 - 05:37 PM

Hi
we are kitting out a community centre with extinguishers after the renovation of the building. The cheapest extinguishers I could find where refurbished CO2 extinguishers. I think they miss the kitemark. Can we really use these, or does it have to be all new?

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#2 Tom Sutton

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Posted 16 January 2012 - 08:27 PM

Yes you can use refurbished fire extinguishers (overhauled) but there are very few types that it makes economic sense to refurbish possible CO2 and some dry powders but quite often it’s cheaper to buy new. It needs to be done in accordance with BS 5306: Part 3: 2000 and other standards therefore if there is no kite mark then that is not acceptable.

In most normal situations you require very few CO2 extinguishers and if you are considering only CO2 then you have been watching too many star trek movies and are need of a competent person to help you. Check out http://www.firesafe....uisher-general/
All my responses only apply to England and Wales and they are an overview of the subject, hopefully it will point you in the right direction and always treat with caution.   Scotland and Northern Ireland has differing legislation

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Posted 17 January 2012 - 08:59 AM

Factory refurbs (eg all CO2 extinguisher refurbs) lose their kitemark, they will however be CE marked, which I believe is sufficient.

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Posted 17 January 2012 - 10:14 AM

Hi Harry

Why do they lose their kitemark, they should be overhauled in accordance with BS 5306: Part 3: 2000,  F1, F2, D1 and E1?

Tom
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Posted 17 January 2012 - 04:01 PM

Hi Tom
Just checked with our manufacturer who supplies our CO2 refurbs. Their answer was:

It is not possible to Kitemark a refurbished CO2 extinguishers as BSI will not permit the use of their mark for refurbs. This is linked to the fact that they cannot certify the origin of the cylinder (issue of traceability). However, BAFE is approving the refurbs we are selling and there is a 21 step process involved to stress test and pressure test the cylinders to ensure the integrity of the cylinder. The cylinders are also sand-blasted, re-painted and labeled and then fitted with brand new head valve assemblies.

Whilst they can be used in new installations, they are mainly used to replace existing CO2 extinguishers when an extinguisher reaches 10 years.
Harry

#6 Tom Sutton

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Posted 17 January 2012 - 06:54 PM

Thanks Harry.
All my responses only apply to England and Wales and they are an overview of the subject, hopefully it will point you in the right direction and always treat with caution.   Scotland and Northern Ireland has differing legislation



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