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  1. I would add have you considered the fact the smoke alarms were doing their job?

    A smoke alarm will make its alarm noise for as long as it detects smoke or similar sized particles, when the smoke or similar has cleared the detector will stop, just as yours did.

    As you have interlinked detectors (which is good) when one sounds they all sound. I suggest that one of them detected a small amount of smoke or similar.

    If they do this again, or on a regular basis then you would need to make logs of what time who was where etc, but as it was just a one off I would not worry about it, since if it was smoke or similar, you did not notice it, but then, were you looking for it?

  2. I would like to mention that to be of much use they would need to be interlinked so that if one activates they all activate, it is possible to buy radio interlinked smoke alarms with a 10 year battery life safelincs can supply such a unit

    But I would also like to point out that smoke alarms are for automatic detection, but if a person sees a fire they can not activate the smoke alarm manually, but if there was a "basic" fire alarm installed with manual call points then activating one would cause an instant alarm.

  3. For what its worth, I always though they look like they were made at the local shoe bar, Just a disc engraved with a number.

    (I can't show a picture or add a link as its against forum rules, but a well known "shoe bar" does sell and engrave small discs which are commonly known as pet tags)

  4. Tom, sorry if I am being pedantic about this, but Mark did say

    .........a labelled fire door

    He did not say "a labelled fire exit" If it is a fire exit, I would agree with you, but does the door they came in not also count as an exit?

    Would it be better to know the size of the office in question and how many people are working in it?

  5. The way modern fire alarm panels operate, if the cable is damaged or severed there will be indication of this at the main panel. Also after installation it is not uncommon for fire alarm cables to be hidden / become inaccessible / need access equipment to inspect them, so it is rarely done, but all the devices connected should be tested once in every twelve month period.

  6. Hello Kenny, you can not find such legislation you seek because it does not exist.

    You have been miss-informed about fire alarms.

    Fire alarms are put in categories, depending on the use of the area of the building in question determines which category the fire alarm should be installed to comply with.

    The most basic is to have manual call points which as you say, the premises you work at has.

    Automatic fire alarms (Ones with smoke detectors) are only mandatory if there are or likely to be people sleeping in the building.

    That said there is no regulation that says you can not have smoke detectors as well as manual call points. But this then becomes a different category of fire alarm.

  7. The idea is that the strips expand to prevent hot gasses / flames from going any further than the door, so limiting damage. As harry says, by the time it does this you should have been long gone from the building.

    I have seen a fire door after a fire. During the fire the strips did expand to stop hot gasses and flames getting past. One side of the door looked normal, the side where the fire was, the door looked like burnt toast

  8. Generally smoke alarms will activate so long as they can sense particles of the right size. (Does not have to be smoke) Since it stopped shortly after starting I would say that what ever it detected is no longer present.

    Is it a stand alone detector or are there several interconnected? If they are interconnected did any of the others activate? (I am guessing its a stand alone)

    To test a smoke detector most instructions will tell you to "Press the test button, to make sure it activates."

  9. I have no idea why your detector is making a crackling noise, I suggest you take it down and have a look, there may be water in it. I say this because I have seen it a few times where there has been a leak via the floor above and water has come through a ceiling mounted detector. If it is mains operated, turn the mains off first.

    What ever the case, it is not repairable and I suggest you change it.

  10. Assuming that pressing the button on most detectors is a battery test. How are mains wired detectors tested?

    To clarify what Harry said.

    Pressing the button on a detector is NOT a battery test.

    When the test button is pressed the detection device (be that ionisation / optical / other) is "fooled" into believing "contamination" is present, so the detector sounds for a short while. The battery voltage is monitored by different electronics of the detector, and if in the testing process the battery voltage becomes too low the sounder will chirp at regular intervals to indicate this.

    It is the same for mains / battery / combination detectors.

  11. This is as my signature says, just my opinion.

    You have a "conflict of interests" before you start.

    Due to the "specialised knowledge" required to service each item I can not see it being viable to have a combined unit, that said there are available "stand alone units" such as the one shown below.

    fire_point.jpg

    These are suitable for building sites, but not for buildings as the alarms are not interconnected and there is no way to identify where the unit actually is. (from a central location)

    To address your point of "fear and intimidation" I would suggest that you could post what ever signs you like, it will not work, if anything cause more confusion.

    I would suggest that the only real way to remove fear and intimidation in this case is training in how to use fire extinguishers.

    As for spending and cost, put yourself in the buyers shoes, would you spend money on something you don't have to even if the other product is better and costs more?

    The fire safety person would want the better option, but there has to be a compromise.

  12. Very sorry Harry, I believe you will find that a fire alarm should be serviced every 3 months, Often they will check 25% of the alarm, each service, so by the time 12 months have passed everything will have been checked, That is also why is some places you will see devices with small coloured dots stuck on them. its so they know which device was tested in which quarter.

    Intruder alarms are tested once every six months.

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