andre Posted January 7, 2020 Report Share Posted January 7, 2020 I would like to know if this is complies with bs5839 pt6. An existing system A 4 storey hmo split into 3 self contained flats with a communal staircase. The communal entrance and stairs has a fire alarm control panel with smokes, call points and sounders. Then each flat has its own mains wired smoke alarm in the entrance hall not interlinked and not wired to the control panel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthonyB Posted January 8, 2020 Report Share Posted January 8, 2020 Usually the communal system would have heat detectors and sounders in each flat to enable full evacuation, which is the purpose of the common system (if it had been purpose built flats it wouldn't need a common system unless it had smoke vents) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andre Posted January 9, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2020 Thanks Anthony I have revisited the property today. Can the mixed system stay and still comply? Each of the 3 flats has a mains / battery back up smoke detector wired in twin and earth interlinked to the other flats. This is supplied from the landlord main. They have all been damaged or taped over by tenants. Can these just be replaced with some aico heats to avoid nuisance alarms, (smokers) The communal system also looks like it has been switched off a while but wiring is still intact. Parts to be renewed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Sutton Posted January 10, 2020 Report Share Posted January 10, 2020 andre if it is three self contained flats then it is not an HMO check out HOUSING – FIRE SAFETY Guidance on fire safety provisions for certain types of existing housing and which designation does it fall under. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthonyB Posted January 10, 2020 Report Share Posted January 10, 2020 Heats are a no no for escape routes as by the time they activate the area wouldn't support life. If you need a common system, the common parts have to have smokes. As a very small block by the sounds of it you may be able to retain the existing kit, without looking I can't be sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andre Posted January 11, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2020 The property is not hmo Its a large house converted into 3 flats. The escape routes are fitted with 3 x smokes, 2 call points and 2 sounders. We would prefer not to extend the communal system into the flats due to problems with access and upheavel. Its much easier just to have the parts of the mixed systwms replaced. As long as this complies? Having the mxed system also appeals in case one is tampered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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