rabell Posted June 22, 2011 Report Share Posted June 22, 2011 I have fire doors in out building which have been in place for many years, they have glass apertures but no intumscent seals. they do not appear to have had these for a very long time, must we fit them? they are marked as fire doors and comply other than this fact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Firespotter Posted June 29, 2011 Report Share Posted June 29, 2011 Hi While there is such a thing as a fire door without smoke seals (theoretically FD30 instead of FD30s) which can be used on areas where the passage of smoke is of no concern, all fire doors should have intumescent fire door seals. These days smoke seals (basically a brush) and intumescent fire door seals (thin strip of intumescent wrapped in plastic)are usually integrated in one seal. As your door is already in existence you could fit surface mounted fire door seals to stop you having to cut a rebate into the door or frame. These surface mounted seals are usually stuck to the door with self-adhesive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Sutton Posted July 4, 2011 Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 If the fire door was installed before 1987 then it will have been tested to BS 476 part 8 and will have no intumescent strips and 25mm rebates. If after 1987 it will have been tested to BS 476 part 22 and fitted with intumescent strips and 12mm rebates. A part 8 door will fail a part 22 test with a duration of about 15 to 20 minutes but depending on the findings of your fire risk assessment it may be acceptable not to fit intumescent strips. Another point to consider the intumescent strip maybe fitted under lipping on both edges but it could be visible on the top edge of the fire door. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Fadbo Posted July 23, 2011 Report Share Posted July 23, 2011 Hi I am a student studying building surveying and I would like to enquire about fire resisting doors in commercial buildings. I am a little confused. I am looking at a double fire door that has no seals is that not compulsary ? above the door are 2 fire dampers was wondering whether you could be of help or direct me to the right place please. Many thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tom Sutton Posted July 26, 2011 Report Share Posted July 26, 2011 The posting above explains that fire doors fixed after 1987 should have intumescent seals and can be concealed under the lippings of the fire door blank but if you need more information download Best Practice Guide to Timber Fire Doors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest KevBash Posted October 10, 2011 Report Share Posted October 10, 2011 Are you able to advise when a fire door requires smoke seals as well as intumescent strips? I have a contractor who installed intumescent strips only to a Worship Hall and I don't know if I need to get them changed. Thanks Kevin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Sutton Posted October 10, 2011 Report Share Posted October 10, 2011 If you require cold smoke seals then your fire risk assessment should have made reference to them. To be certain check up with the risk assessor who did your FRA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest RonHilde Posted January 28, 2012 Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 We have quite a few fire doors that need the frame gasket replaced and I cannot find it . The Door frame has a plate "Warnock Hersey 1 hr with the serial # WHI 903848 (Donbarton Corp in Dothan, Al Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Safelincs Posted January 28, 2012 Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 Hi Ron I am assuming you mean fire door seals. Please send an email with a photo of your current seal and the main dimensions to service@safelincs.co.uk and we will quote you the necessary fire door seal. Harry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Nigelfer Posted November 12, 2014 Report Share Posted November 12, 2014 Is it law that new FD30 doors should be factory supplied as a set including frame, hinges, I/Strip, etc ? or is it still OK to fit on site as individual components as long as the guidelines are followed for the FD30 door manufacturer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Sutton Posted November 13, 2014 Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 There is no legislation that requires fire door sets to be fitted, that is up to the fire risk assessor and the enforcing authority, what they are prepared to accept. If you fit a certified fire door set, then you will have documentation from a third party proving the installation will be fit for purpose and acceptable to any enforcing authority. If you don’t it is classed as a nominal 30FD and you will not have any documentation, proving it is fit for purpose, this will be up to you to prove it, if things go pear shaped. Consequently following the guidelines of the door manufacturer on what door furniture to use and how it should be installed is very important. Check out http://www.pfpf.org/pdf/passive_data/timber_fire_doors.pdf and http://www.firesafe.org.uk/fire-doors/ for more information. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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