August 31Aug 31 comment_56120 A small public house has an office directly of the first-floor lounge. ASD in lounge. Extra office space is needed so the proposal is to remove the office and put in a flight of stairs to the second floor. Travel distance to the MOE on the first-floor is circa 18m. If the stairs does not have a door at the top, can the arrangement still be considered an inner room? Report
August 31Aug 31 comment_56123 Because the second-floor room is accessed directly from the stairs, it should still be considered an inner room. The access is still dependant on the lounge, however the fact that there is ASD and visibility will make it an acceptable risk Report
August 31Aug 31 comment_56125 The 'no door' or windows solution for an inner room is so the inner room occupier will quickly notice a fire developing in the access room - far less likely if the inner room is on another floor (until it's too late) so that would also make the 'no door' solution untenable to remove an unmitigated inner room. As Mike says you have AFD which is the more modern solution to the issue Report
September 2Sep 2 Author comment_56127 There is an application in with BC, but I must say that irrespective of their decision, I remain very uncomfortable with the proposal. There is obviously no direct view to the outer room and reliance on automatic detection may well be an acceptable solution as far as building regulations go, but I have spent a working lifetime in servicing the hospitality industry and have witnessed faulty fire alarm systems of one kind or another, often ignored for long periods, especially in the smaller establishments where service contracts are not so prevalent and managerial oversight is often below par. Report
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