Tommy

Hi all, I am responsible fire safety in a large student accommodation building, 137 self contained flat clusters (4 sleeping rooms in each) and 77 studio flats. My enquiry is regarding the individual flat clusters, the configuration is 4 flats, 1 electrical kitchen/common room. The evacuation strategy is 'Stay Put' so no audible alarm in the common areas of the building, each flat is provided with independent fire alarm systems with AFD in the common hallway and kitchen (Heat). The flat entrance doors are FD60s self closing fire door sets and with an FD30s self closing fire door set at the kitchen entrance, however each sleeping room door is not fitted with intumescent strips and smoke seals nor are they self closing. ADB appears to recommend that these doors should be self-closing fire door sets, can anyone shed some light as to why this is not the case?, I am pretty sure it is compliant however I have only come across this configuration in small HMO's Additional info Built - 2008 AOV in place Lobbied Stairwells Kind Regards.

Thanks, I think I'm going to bang a detector in there, upgrade the door and ensure adequate ventilation. Appreciate the reply.

Excellent mate, thank you for your input.

I just need some clarification upon protecting stairwells in a hotel building using the example below. Building 4 Storeys. Age 1950's approx. Ground Floor - Bar and Restaurant First Floor - Guest Sleeping Accommodation Second Floor - Guest Sleeping Accommodation Third Floor - Guest Sleeping Accommodation The building has 2 stairwells one from the third floor to a final exit on the ground floor and one from the second floor landing to ground floor via an alternative final exit. (Travel distances are within GM guidelines) Question 1 - I am sure all stairwells in sleeping accommodation should always be a fire resistant for a minimum of 30 minutes. Is this correct? if so are there any exceptions? what documents can help clarify this? Question 2 - A follow up to this is would the same apply in an office building with no sleeping? Any response is appreciated.

Thanks for the reply.