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Hi All, I just had a question about some of the night latches now on the market which seem to indicate they have been tested for FD30/60 doors. Two manufacturers that spring to mind are Arrone and Eurospec. When looking into the evidence for these claims I always find that the evidence isn't very robust as far as suitability for a door assembly. With no specific test evidence or even instructions for fitting to a fire door. No mention of a requirement for intumescent etc. Personally I would never install a night latch on a modern certified door assembly as there are simply much better products to be used. However when trying to do the best possible with a nominal fire door already fitted with a Yale branded night latch. Should these locks be considered when replacement is required or is there no benefit? All of these doors currently have certified self closing devices. I'm not aware of any of these style night latches having any markings either. CE/ UKCA. I heard from an architectural ironmongerer recently that surface mounted hardware doesn't need a fire rating (this was in relation to coded locks). Is this the reason we don't have a robustly tested night latch as it's surface mounted. I feel the testing may be more to do with the cylinder and the way its fitted through the door rather than the night latch lock body on the back of the door. I'm keen to hear thoughts as this is an issue I come across a lot.

Hi all, I had a question about installing fire door assemblies in commercial premises. I get asked about installing fire door assemblies very rarely. Probably 3-4 times a year. I looked into the BM Trada Q Mark qualification but unfortunately the annual membership makes it prohibitively expensive. It's a shame because I want to do the right thing and I would love to do the course. There is just not an option for low volume installs. My question is, would I be able to install a fire door assembly, inspect it (I'm going for my CertFDI at the moment) and write out a cert? Basically I would be the installer and the Inspector certifying the install. I will have liability as both the installer and the certifying inspector so nothing can be hidden.