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Background: 1965 purpose built 2-storey block of flats sharing common entrance.

Problem: 2018 fire safety inspection recommended LD1 alarm system OR replace existing Flat Entrance doors with FD30s compliant doors. Contract placed for composite doors but after Grenville fire manufacture halted and still unable to contract for replacement.

Commissioned new fire safety survey in July 2020 by different inspector who recommends immediate installation of Linked D1 smoke alarms in all Flats and Common entrance AND later installation of FD30s compliant Flat Entrance doors!

Question. Can we ignore the second fire safety survey recommendation and continue to seek an installer of certified fire doors?

 

 

 

 

 

 

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You need to give more details on the construction and layout of the building and is each flat owned or leasehold and who is the Responsible Person also what is the fire procedure.

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All Flats are Leasehold with freehold held by landlord RMC.

General Description 

There are 8 blocks on the site.  Each block comprises two storeys.  Apartments 1 and 2 have separate front doors and no 
communal areas. Apartments 3, 4, 5 and 6 are approached via a communal entrance lobby.  A similar entrance lobby gives 
access to 
apartments 9, 10, 11 and 12. Apartments 7 and 8; 13 and 14; and 15 and 16; all form smaller blocks.    

Each block has a substantial concrete mid-floor. There is no basement. The walls are of brick.  The roofs are pitched and tiled.  
Each first floor apartment has an external balcony.    Each  ground  floor  flat  has  access  to  the  outside  via  patio  doors. This 
effectively serves as an alternative means of escape from each ground floor flat.    

Party walls separate the blocks where they are attached to each other.   

Garages for the use of the occupiers are installed on the site, all being well clear of the 

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I cannot give you a definitive response without a physical inspection or detailed plans but I am reasonable certain all flats should have domestic smoke alarm and  CO detector installed by the landlord, check out The Smoke and Carbon Monoxide Alarm (England) Regulations 2015 and a LDI system should only be installed if you have a full evacuation fire procedure.

All front doors opening onto a common area should be fitted FD30s fire doors.

I also think all tenants should be given a detailed note on the action to be taken in the event of a fire especially now while the works are being actioned and should be a full evacuation until at least the work is completed.

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I'd need to see the site but for a purpose built mid 60's small block of flats you don't need a communal fire alarm, are unlikely to need to retrofit smoke vents and associated detection and your main risk assessment mandatory finding would relate to front doors being fire doors with effective self closers and a recommendation only for emergency lighting.

Associated with this finding would be one that, as a result, fire detection & warning inside the flats is outside the scope of the freeholder's common responsibility and the as built stay put policy should stay in place.

There could of course be other findings, but in essence, based on what I've found and what the build requirements of the day required, it's most likely

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