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Guest Marky R

I work at a food manufacturing company consisting of industrial cooking baking equipment.

Along one external wall we have several porches with a fire exit doors on the outside, and a screened ventilated metal door on the inside.

My question is during hot weather conditions, can we leave the external door open?

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Guest Michael

Commercial government office building owned and operated by the GSA, fire screen door accessing stairs that go vertical from the 5th floor to the 1st floor. Can the door be propped open by any means if there is a properly trained person in close proximity standing watch while working that would close it in the event of a fire? Is there a provision for this? When the door has mechanical issues the maintenance guy has to prop it open between trips to get supplies or tools, granted for short periods. Like when the handle fell off and access to the stairs would have been impossible.

Thank you in advance

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I am not sure what you mean by fire screen door, I assume it is a FD30/60 fire door to the staircase enclosure.

There is no provision for this situation, in fire safety there are no black and white answers, like most things in fire safety it is all about risk assessment and if it is essential that a fire door has to be propped open, you have to make the situation as fire safe as possible. If you are happy to defend your solution with common sense and the occupants will/should be safe in a fire situation then go with it.

Without having a full and intimate knowledge of the situation I cannot give a definitive answer also it is up to you to defend it if things go pear shaped.

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Guest Alansfiresafety

Great advice here. I have a similar question to the last poster. We have some special needs people who do some training in a workshop. Their is an internal FD30 door that leads out to a lobby and then towards the final exit door. During the summer, the workshop gets very warm and staff have propped the fire door open to allow some ventilation. We asked the local fire trainer’s advice and he was of the opinion that it would be acceptable to prop the door open provided that at all times there was a responsible adult with the service users to close the door in the event of us having to evacuate the area. He did say that strictly speaking, the door should be closed at all times but that if the “responsible adult “ is willing to stand over the propping of the door, it is probably acceptable. Needles to say, this has left us more confused. Any comment ??

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Hi, that sounds a rather risky advice, how would you ensure that that person is there ALL the time? Why not simply use a fire door retainer that holds a fire door open when required but allows the fire door closer to close the door when there is a fire. These are in very widespread use.

Harry

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The fire trainer doesn't sound like a competent fire risk assessor and their advice is severely flawed (otherwise everywhere would just do this).

A proper fire door retainer is advisable, depending on the situation a simple indirect self contained device such as a Dorgard or Shuttle may suffice or a more direct device may be required - your competent risk assessor should consult BS7273-4 in determining which will suit.

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Guest David

Can you tell me if an emergency exit door to the outside when opened should it have a device that holds it open and not return to closed by the wind or an other uncontrolled means.   

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Guest SO'W

Hi everyone, thank you so much for sharing your knowledge and wisdom. Was wondering if I could just pose my current issue. I work in a warehouse and we have a door the drivers use to enter when they've parked up. The wind is vicious and often slams the door if just left open so I've put a tie outside to keep it hooked open. I've been told by certain people this is not allowed. It is marked as a fire exit and kept clear of obstacles but, is this a fire risk to keep it open? 

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Only if it is required to be a fire door which is not common, the door in the image appears not to be a FD30 door which is the norm and it is quite acceptable to hold it open, the only concern would be security.

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Guest T longworth

Hello

we are refurbishing a gastro pub and have 2 sets of final escape to fresh air doors. The doors are beautiful Georgian ( not listed) doors. Security wise we could have them unlocked during times that the public are resident. Would it be possible to not install panic bars but lever handles ? 

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If the doors are locked in the open position the type of door handle is irrelevant but I cannot see the doors wide open in the depths of winter so I would suggest you keep the panic bars as it is a place of assembly.

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Guest Jaq

Can I stop my neighbour from using a fire exit as an entrance ee jointly own because she is turning her house into flats 

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