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Tom Sutton

Member Since 04 Jul 2011
Offline Last Active May 19 2012 01:46 PM

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In Topic: I cut fire safety labels off, do I now need to nuy new??

18 May 2012 - 08:25 AM

Eva which labels are you talking about the display label or the permanent label the display label is only for retailers who are selling the upholstered furniture. The permanent label is securely fixed and should remain with the furniture also should be difficult to remove.

Check out http://www.satra.co....view.php?id=254 which shows the two types of label.

In Topic: Do 2kg powder car fire extinguishers have to be serviced?

16 May 2012 - 02:39 PM

Further results of my research on dry powder extinguishers for vehicles.

If a company has ABC dry powder extinguishers, for use in company vehicles, it appears there are three variations available, factory sealed aerosol types, and factory sealed disposable types and traditional types.

   1. Aerosol types such as Firemaster, First Alert, some Kidde models, Fireblitz and Jactone there are no servicing actions beyond user visual and user check weigh, with replacement at the end of the 5 year warranty.

   2. Some of the other disposable/factory sealed types which in effect were non rechargeable versions of 'traditional' extinguishers such as those used in the past by Kidde & Guardian and gauged aerosols as used by Firemaster in the 80's/90's in theory can be subjected to the full Basic Service as you can remove pins and re-tag, gauge verify with a tool etc., The only difference being, should recharge be needed on the extended service is has to be replaced.

   3. The tradition types need to be serviced fully in accordance with BS 5306 Pt 3 2008.

Therefore I would suggest for the protection of a motor vehicle you would require a minimum 2Kg ABC class dry powder extinguisher. The advice on carrying fire extinguishers in motor vehicles is very sparse unless you are subject to the ADR, CDG Regulations and they require a minimum of one 2Kg ABC Dry powder and I cannot see any reasons to disagree with that.

None of the aerosols types are suitable because they only cover class BC but the ABC disposable/factory sealed types are suitable.  They would need commissioning test on installation, visual every month and a basic service every 12months and to be replaced at the extended service/overhaul.

The traditional type should be serviced as indicated above.

In Topic: Can fire exit doors be left permanently open?

14 May 2012 - 07:03 PM

Any final exit door required for escape in the event of a fire in the premises is classed as a fire exit door and if they are not regularly used on a day by day basis they must be indicated with a "Fire Exit" sign. Most final exit doors do not require to be fire resisting therefore do not require to be kept closed and if the doors you speak of are not fire resisting doors then there is no reason why they cannot be held open. The only reason why they are kept closed is for security reasons.

In Topic: Does doors between two buildings have to be fireproof?

13 May 2012 - 09:57 PM

Question 1 there is a requirement to have 60 mins fire resistance between the two occupancies and two FD30 would achieve that. However this question requires the expertise of a building control officer and you should confirm my reply with a BCO.

In Topic: Does doors between two buildings have to be fireproof?

13 May 2012 - 03:22 PM

The simple answer to question 2 is you can't it is all about risk assessment and you need to have experience in this field. There are clues that may help for instance, the thickness of the door, the weight, the number of hinges, usually three, are intumescent and smoke seals fitted, is there any fire resisting glazing fitted but the only certain way is to have some form of documentation, labels or plastic plugs.

Check out http://www.firesafe.org.uk/fire-doors/ for more information.