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AnthonyB

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  1. The site needs a fire risk assessment to sort this out by a fire safety specialist with additional training in & experience of residential FRAs.(Legally it should have had one for 18 years now in any case!) The current arrangement is one for a simultaneous evacuation usually required when one or more of the following is in place: - Inadequate fire separation between commercial & residential uses (but you say it's OK) - Shared escape between commercial & residential uses (but you say it's separate) - Inadequate fire separation between flats &/or flats & common parts (but you say it's OK) - Inadequate or no smoke control (but it's an open deck!) - External Wall System High Risk (unlikely for size of building) It seems (& this wouldn't be the first time this has happened) it has got a fire alarm system that it doesn't need nor ads any useful additional benefit and just costs everyone money and the premises may be acceptable with no common system and a 'stay put unless affected' approach. I can't of course be 100% unless I've been and done the FRA - where in the UK is the property?
  2. Your doorsets no doubt are missing these: https://wellinguk.com/products/door-closers/door-closers-door-closers/overhead-surface-mounted-door-closers/double-door-selector-silver/
  3. Have you checked these out? https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/fire-safety-risk-assessment-means-of-escape-for-disabled-people
  4. Whilst it has no common areas if it could be classed as a single building containing two or more dwellings then it falls under the FSO requiring an FRA to consider the external wall fire risk.
  5. Yes you can as long as the PIR locations and activation times are such it's not possible to be navigating a flight before they lights activate nor them cut out before you've finished. Many buildings have these.
  6. It's not explicitly required, but having one could be viewed as required to form part of the record of fire safety arrangements that is required by law. It also helps with planned maintenance so that only doors required to be fire doors are inspected and maintained (which as this can be quite expensive can save a lot of money!)
  7. Keeping the kitchen separate is a good move as this is often the area of contention. As it's too high for every floor to have escape windows as a secondary exit you would usually need a protected stair as you have presently. I've not had time to look in detail, but usually layouts like this would attract a need for domestic sprinklers, in some cases smoke curtains and vents have been used too. A chartered fire engineer is your best bet for advice & any BCO submission.
  8. Who ever did the work on 2 & 3 needs to come back & think again as the works are useless if the doors aren't shutting flush of their own accord - a fully competent firm would be expected to be able to recognise and deal with this issue. Does the lobby contain a staircase, how many floors are there & how many flats per floor? The default is to remediate your door but I can see your point - depending on the overall set up in the premises would determine how critical this would be.
  9. How old is the house? It's been a legal requirement under Building Regs for a very long time so shouldn't have been replaced by a non fire door. If it's a very old house then it may predate this requirement and as long as it complies with the standard at the time of build it's compliant until there is any building work that would result in the application of current regs
  10. I'd make the effort to find out, I've worked on a Tribunal case where a landlord supply was installed when not actually required for EL & alarm and helped the leaseholders win and not be liable for costs. If it's pre payment only then there are grounds for a landlord supply but these can be very expensive to provide and you are at the mercy of the DNS as to what they will charge for their side of laying in the new supply.
  11. As long as it's not off a pre payment meter it's tolerable.
  12. Yes, at least a notional 30 minutes usually
  13. However, if an existing building with a common alarm system and simultaneous evacuation you are fine. A new build would indeed require 60 minutes and usually then doesn't need linked alarms.
  14. That's because it doesn't need to be. 30 would suit, just like a flat front door on an external balcony with only one direction of escape that has to be passed to escape.
  15. They removed the reference to 'significant' findings (no doubt due to the confusion) and so all findings must be recorded - which in practice means the whole assessment. Yes, if you are required to do a fire risk assessment under the FSO it must be written. It no longer matters if you don't have any employees, a license or whatever. This change is in part because many Responsible Persons treated the under 5 persons as meaning they didn't have to do anything at all as oppose simply not record the FRA and this included a lot of flats as well as non domestic premises. Fill in the template in full as applicable, including any action plan and you have recorded your findings for the purpose of the FSO. Simpler in a way rather than trying to decide what you needed to record and what you didn't.
  16. There is no set lifespan for devices and independent testing has shown up 25 years of reliable function - but of course devices will eventually fail, either by false alarming or not working whilst tested, so at some point things will get replaced. Haes Sav Wire panels and Apollo Sav wire bases and s65 conventional detectors are all current manufactured kit so there is no reason not to just replace individual components as and when they fail - it's your choice if you wish to start over in one go for the fault finding extras a Fike system provides.
  17. Sounds like the fire alarm system is an obsolete model and needs full replacement. If you are concerned visit the Business Fire Safety page of your local fire service website to get the contact details for the Business Fire Safety Team who can advise and if required carry out a site audit and any required enforcement action. Your company should have implemented temporary measures during the system downtime if they wished to continue to occupy the building
  18. Where 60 minutes fire separation cannot be achieved between the commercial & residential elements then the commercial premises must be provided with a fire alarm system that includes automatic fire detection - the system should also be extended into the flat to provide alarm sounders on each level and no less than 85dB at the bedroom doors. In listed buildings wireless fire alarms are usually appropriate - https://www.safelincs.co.uk/wireless-fire-alarm-systems/
  19. Possibly not - if they were built in the 80's then they would have fire doors as the original doors if required.
  20. AnthonyB

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    Your Building Regulations submission should have dealt with this as part of the Design Fire Strategy. These premises usually have a BS5839-1 fire alarm system to Category L1. Depending on the occupant profile an agreed variation may be key operated manual call points rather than break glass type.
  21. No, as there is no room at ground level, just the entrance: (1) A relevant landlord in respect of a specified tenancy must ensure that— (a)during any period beginning on or after 1st October 2015 when the premises are occupied under the tenancy— (i)a smoke alarm is equipped on each storey of the premises on which there is a room used wholly or partly as living accommodation;
  22. You are out of date - Section 9 was amended in October 2023 by s156 of the Building Safety Act requiring all findings of the FRA (no longer just the significant ones) to be recorded in all cases - the old 5 + employees, alterations notice or license requirements have gone. (Non commercial reference https://www.london-fire.gov.uk/safety/property-management/changes-to-fire-safety-law-how-it-affects-you/) The law clearly states all non domestic premises require a fire risk assessment and the text of the Order makes no exclusion for vacant premises because of the duty to protect persons in the vicinity of a premises and not just lawfully on the premises. During COVID-19 there was a vast increase in empty buildings and the Government & Fire Services were quick to point out that risk assessments needed updating & relevant precautions. No one says you have to pay for FRAs or use external providers - you can do these yourself for simple premises, which could include empty buildings, and insurers give useful guides (https://www.nfumutual.co.uk/globalassets/business/rms/2021-update/unoccupied-buildings-fire-safety-guide.pdf) I've asked a Fire & Rescue Service for a written opinion - once I receive a reply I will post here. Those risk assessors who have been prosecuted have included fire service personnel, current or ex - no one is infallible!
  23. It's not part of the user fault finding process. (https://fireandelectrical.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/Twinflex-Pro-User-Manual.pdf) It can be traced on devices by engineers (https://fireandelectrical.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/Twinflex-Pro-Installation-Manual.pdf) Twinflex is a bit off - it's an analogue conventional and does have some features beyond a standard one (the original twinflex panels showed not only the zone of fire, but whether it was a call point or detector) You could keep the cable but would have to replace every single device as well as the panel if you want to swap to Twinflex - however you just need a decent engineer to find the faults, you shouldn't need to bin the whole thing - plus if the faults are on the zone cabling you will still have all the same issues, so if biting the bullet and replacing everything you might as well go the whole hog and re cable so it's all correct.
  24. Who on earth told you that? As long as the frame has the correct fire performance rating for the location, is compatible with the other components of the door set & is correctly installed then it's fine - Building Regulation & Fire Safety Guidance specifies primarily by performance, not by type of material.
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